classic revolver for snakes / rat shot

jp_over · March 15, 2013, 01:25 PM

Friends,

I'm a fan of the older (no lock - perhaps 1970s - 1980s) S&W revolvers. For those of you in the know, I'd like a recommendation on a nice "snake gun" to use with rat shot loads but also regular loads from time to time.

I don't care too much about caliber but I would like to stick with S&W (I'll consider other brands with good references).

I'd also like the gun to have some "history" to it - perhaps the 1911 of the revolver world but not so precious that it's not a shooter.

Thanks for your suggestions!

JohnMoses · March 15, 2013, 02:18 PM

my go to snake gun is a S&W mdl 60. Shorter barrels are better. I have killed 5' rattlers with 1 shot. An old flat latch 36 would be ideal.

jp_over · March 15, 2013, 02:31 PM

Thank you Sir - will consider.

DPris · March 15, 2013, 02:41 PM

Shot dispersal (patterning) is greatly affected by both velocity and rifling twist rates.
The S&W .38 Special snubs are among the best choices with Speer snake loads.
Longer barrels give faster velocities & create wider patterns.
Denis

BarryLee · March 15, 2013, 05:08 PM

Model 19/66 .357 snub-nose

Bob Wright · March 15, 2013, 05:29 PM

A few years ago I fired a 4" barreled double deringer chambered for .45 Colt/.410 Shotshells. Out of curiosity, I fired some .45 Colt rounds downrange at the berm, 110 yards away. The barrels shot about eight feet apart.

I set a 7.62 Russian case up at seven yards and fired four rounds of .410 shotshells. After four rounds, the case was still standing. Have never trusted shotshells in a handgun again.

Bob Wright

Buzzcook · March 15, 2013, 11:22 PM

I'd look at .45 for rat shot. A SAA clone will be a bit less expensive than a double action.

The revolver equivalent of a 1911 is either the 1873 SAA or the S&W Military and Police/the Model 10.

highpower3006 · March 16, 2013, 12:10 AM

I have carried both .357 and .44 cal. handguns while hiking loaded with shot shells. Both will do the job and barrel length seems to make no appreciable difference.

These days I carry my old Model 29 with a snake shot as the first round. The rest are 240 grain hard cast Keith style semi wadcutters.

jp_over · March 16, 2013, 02:27 AM

Thanks for the replies.

That's a nice looking model 29; in fact, that's just about what I had pictured in my mind as ideal. A check on gunbroker.com shows the .357 variant is not very common. I suppose most of these were in .44 magnum?

highpower3006 · March 16, 2013, 10:18 AM

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A check on gunbroker.com shows the .357 variant is not very common. I suppose most of these were in .44 magnum?

The .357 N frame Smiths come in two varieties, The Model 27 and the 28. The 28 is also called the Highway Patrolman and is a less polished version of the 27. Right now the Mod 27's are hugely popular and the prices have risen accordingly. The most common Mod 27 is going to be the 27-2 version, with the earlier five screw guns generally bringing a premium. Around here, they turn up from time to time, but not very consistently.

Gunbroker prices are usually on the high side compared to what they can be had for locally. Be prepared to pay $500+ for a nice HP and $700+ for a 27. The above information about the Model 27 is also true for the Model 29, with the 29-2 being the version that is encountered the most.

Really nice guns in the original presentation case with all the accessories fetch closer to $1000. Sometimes a deal can be found if you keep looking hard enough though. The Mod 29 four screw (produced from 1957~61) I posted the picture of was found in a local gun store for $600. A few months later I found this NIB 29-2 in the same store for $900 OTD.

March 15, 2013, 01:25 PM	#1
jp_over Member Join Date: February 4, 2006 Location: Afghanistan, again! Posts: 58	classic revolver for snakes / rat shot Friends, I'm a fan of the older (no lock - perhaps 1970s - 1980s) S&W revolvers. For those of you in the know, I'd like a recommendation on a nice "snake gun" to use with rat shot loads but also regular loads from time to time. I don't care too much about caliber but I would like to stick with S&W (I'll consider other brands with good references). I'd also like the gun to have some "history" to it - perhaps the 1911 of the revolver world but not so precious that it's not a shooter. Thanks for your suggestions! __________________ Joe “God grant that men of principle shall be our principal men.” – Thomas Jefferson

March 15, 2013, 02:31 PM	#3
jp_over Member Join Date: February 4, 2006 Location: Afghanistan, again! Posts: 58	Thank you Sir - will consider. __________________ Joe “God grant that men of principle shall be our principal men.” – Thomas Jefferson

March 15, 2013, 02:41 PM	#4
DPris Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 3,807	Shot dispersal (patterning) is greatly affected by both velocity and rifling twist rates. The S&W .38 Special snubs are among the best choices with Speer snake loads. Longer barrels give faster velocities & create wider patterns. Denis Last edited by DPris; March 15, 2013 at 09:05 PM.

March 15, 2013, 05:08 PM	#5
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 2,156	Model 19/66 .357 snub-nose __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

March 16, 2013, 02:27 AM	#9
jp_over Member Join Date: February 4, 2006 Location: Afghanistan, again! Posts: 58	Thanks for the replies. That's a nice looking model 29; in fact, that's just about what I had pictured in my mind as ideal. A check on gunbroker.com shows the .357 variant is not very common. I suppose most of these were in .44 magnum? __________________ Joe “God grant that men of principle shall be our principal men.” – Thomas Jefferson Last edited by jp_over; March 16, 2013 at 02:33 AM.

March 15, 2013, 02:18 PM	#2
JohnMoses Member Join Date: April 11, 2008 Posts: 73	my go to snake gun is a S&W mdl 60. Shorter barrels are better. I have killed 5' rattlers with 1 shot. An old flat latch 36 would be ideal.

March 15, 2013, 05:29 PM	#6
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 1,279	A few years ago I fired a 4" barreled double deringer chambered for .45 Colt/.410 Shotshells. Out of curiosity, I fired some .45 Colt rounds downrange at the berm, 110 yards away. The barrels shot about eight feet apart. I set a 7.62 Russian case up at seven yards and fired four rounds of .410 shotshells. After four rounds, the case was still standing. Have never trusted shotshells in a handgun again. Bob Wright

March 15, 2013, 11:22 PM	#7
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 5,251	I'd look at .45 for rat shot. A SAA clone will be a bit less expensive than a double action. The revolver equivalent of a 1911 is either the 1873 SAA or the S&W Military and Police/the Model 10.

March 16, 2013, 12:10 AM	#8
highpower3006 Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 226	I have carried both .357 and .44 cal. handguns while hiking loaded with shot shells. Both will do the job and barrel length seems to make no appreciable difference. These days I carry my old Model 29 with a snake shot as the first round. The rest are 240 grain hard cast Keith style semi wadcutters.