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Old March 7, 2013, 09:46 AM   #1
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SD 9mm Ammo

Just looking for what you guys use for self defense when it comes to 9mm. I particularly have a Shield and a friend who just bought a Sig. Just looking for ideas so we can get something worth carrying!!! Thanks......
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Old March 7, 2013, 09:59 AM   #2
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I'll warn you...you're going to get a hundred different answers to this question...

I like Hornady Critical Defense.
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:07 AM   #3
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+1 On the Hornady Critical Defence
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:10 AM   #4
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Yeah i figured, just want to get some ideas of what the people here use thats all. Hornady is one of the top brands for me for everything including hunting.
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:32 AM   #5
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9mm Luger ammunition...

You've picked one of the worst times in modern US history.

There are low supply #s & problems all over the USA for many top brands & styles. I'd still highly suggest using new, factory made 9x19mm or 9mm Luger ammunition for protection or carry. No reloads or hand-loads.
For the 9mm, check these brands; Corbon DPX, PowRball, Hornady TAP & Critical Duty 135gr +P, Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP +P, Remington Golden Saber +P 124gr JHP(bonded), Ranger T/T series 124gr +P JHP, Ranger T 127gr +P+ JHP, MagSafe SWAT.
In spare magazines, I'd tote the PowRball round(s) or the Buffalo Bore 124gr +P+ FMC 9x19. Any factory milspec 124gr FMJ 9mm would work too. You may need the extra push of a milspec FMJ or ball type round & they feed/cycle well.
For sources see: www.shopcorbon.com www.natchezss.com www.grafs.com www.sgammo.com www.cabelas.com www.buffalobore.com www.midwayusa.com
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:40 AM   #6
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9mm Winchester PDX-1 124gr +P. Wicked stuff. I use Critical Defense in my .45 though.
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:50 AM   #7
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FBI protocol tests, street use(s)...

A good plan to check a 9x19mm carry round or LE load is to see how it does in the FBI protocol tests. A T&E of how a factory made 9x19mm round or bullet really works. There are many useful clips on www.youtube.com of different brands.
A handgun round's documented use in real lethal force events or court reported shootings is useful too. The Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P JHP & Winchester Ranger T are in use with many sworn LE agencies.

I'd buy the new Hornady Critical Duty 135gr +P round. It's a top performer in the FBI protocol tests & it's well engineered. The DPX & PowRball loads are great too.

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Old March 7, 2013, 10:54 AM   #8
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Federal HST-LE Tactical 147gr.
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:55 AM   #9
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For the 9mm, check these brands... Ranger T 127gr +P+ JHP... Buffalo Bore 124gr +P+ FMC 9x19.
Be aware, however, that S&W may not endorse the use of +P+ in the Shield. Using this ammo may void the warranty if the pistol is damaged while firing it. Check the owner's manual.

FWIW some manuals contain ambiguous statements like "...this pistol is safe to fire with 9x19mm Parabellum ammunition meeting <SAAMI, CIP, and/or NATO> industry standards." +P and NATO ammo exceed standard pressure but they DO meet industry standards. +P+ ammo does NOT meet industry standards.

Some older military ammunition intended for submachine guns does not meet industry standards either; I wouldn't normally mention this, but the current ammo shortage is causing some vendors to bring out the stuff from the bottom of the proverbial barrel.
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9mm Winchester PDX-1 124gr +P.
AFAIK the 124gr 9mm+P PDX-1 is basically the same as 124gr +P Ranger Bonded, catalog# RA9BA, but the latter is sold in more economical 50rd boxes. Both are very similar to the 124gr +P Ranger T-Series, catalog# RA9124TP, which ClydeFrog mentioned in his prior post.
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Old March 7, 2013, 11:03 AM   #10
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I wound up picking Speer Gold Dots 124gr +P from among the premium rounds, mainly because of its local availability. All the ammo mentioned so far is well respected. The GDs have had no feeding issues in my pistols (G26, 92FS, and my daughter's PX4 Compact).
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Old March 7, 2013, 11:24 AM   #11
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What he said^^^^^^^^. Speer Gold Dots 124 gr +P. There used to be a Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P for short barrels, but I don't know if that is even made anymore.

Good luck finding anything though. It's a dry supply out there unless you have friends in the right places.
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Old March 7, 2013, 11:38 AM   #12
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I used corbon dpx-1's

115gr +p or 95gr

all copper jacket. no lead.
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Old March 7, 2013, 03:40 PM   #13
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Anything from this list will serve you well http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887 I've personally used Federal 147gr HST and Speer 124gr +P GoldDots. I prefer the Federal 147gr HST due to its lower recoil but both are excellent choices.
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Old March 7, 2013, 03:46 PM   #14
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Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P. Good luck finding any.

Whatever you choose, however, I'd recommend putting at least 50 rounds (some people recommend up to 200 rounds, but I think we can leave it at 50 given the state of ammo supply) of your defensive ammo through the gun.

This does 2 things:

1. Get's you used to shooting your defensive load (since most are at +P or +P+ pressures, and have a commensurate increase in felt recoil)
2. Ensures your chosen ammo will feed reliably in your chosen firearm. You don't want to find out your gun doesn't like your defensive ammo while you're in the middle of a fight.
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Old March 7, 2013, 03:54 PM   #15
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Federal HST 124gr and 147gr
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Old March 7, 2013, 04:02 PM   #16
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I used Speer Gold dot 124gr in my SR9c but just picked up a Kahr CM9 and it didn't shoot worth a nickle with that round. I was all over the paper. So I have switch to Winchester PDX1 124gr +p.
I got lucky and ordered 3 boxes last week from Cabela's and had them within a week.
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