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Old March 5, 2013, 09:54 PM   #1
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Anyone know what kind of pepperbox this is?

Hello, I purchased a group of pepperbox pistols and unsure about the type of one. It appears modern, 1950-1990's mfg, a smaller caliber (maybe .31?), and it doesn't have any percussion nipples...only small unthreaded holes Anyone know what kind of pepperbox this is so I can research it further? How does it fire without nipples to put the caps? Thanks!



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Old March 5, 2013, 10:22 PM   #2
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Never seen anything like it...

I wonder if it used paper caps, like Maynard tape primer caps, or even kid's cap gun caps, as priming.

It's definitely not a pin fire.
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Old March 5, 2013, 10:52 PM   #3
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Looks like like a fairly modern home made gun with a tape primer system.
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Old March 6, 2013, 07:15 AM   #4
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looks like it uses the old rolls of red cap gun caps...
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Old March 6, 2013, 07:45 AM   #5
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theatrical propgun? i have never seen an original pepperbox that had the barrels held together by SCREWS. they were either machined as one solid piece, or assembled like a double barrel shotgun.
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Old March 6, 2013, 07:56 AM   #6
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the more I look at it. the cooler I think it is...

I only have one in my collection, a Sharpes & Hankin 4 barrel 32 rimfire with a rotating firing pin on the hammer... everything seems to work on mine, & I picked up a couple of boxes of Navy Arms reproduction ammo several years ago, but so far, mine remains unfired by me...

got any pics of your other peppers ???
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Old March 6, 2013, 02:29 PM   #7
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Looks like it was a home-build.

Most definitely...
No right-minded manufacturer would put a screw inside the trigger guard, or leave some of those welds so obvious.
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Old March 6, 2013, 03:26 PM   #8
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There are no welds visible.
The nipples are removed-simply unscrewed.
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Old March 6, 2013, 03:37 PM   #9
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I would question the need / use of nipples, with the flaps that cover each hole ???
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Old March 6, 2013, 04:23 PM   #10
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Bill, note that the OP said the holes are unthreaded. How do you screw a nipple into something that doesn't have threads?

And, as Magnum noted, there are the flaps...
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Old March 6, 2013, 06:30 PM   #11
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I missed the unthreaded part. Assuming they WERE threaded, the flaps would hold the caps in place during rotation, andshield the user from flying cap fragments.
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Old March 6, 2013, 06:38 PM   #12
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I think it does use paper caps. The "flaps" clamp down on the caps to keep them in place, and the hammer hits the "flap" and crushes the cap between the flap and the barrel.

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Old March 6, 2013, 06:39 PM   #13
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Homemade. Someone with W-A-Y to much time on their
hands. Looks smoothbore?

I'm going to guess that it's method of ignition was:

Mattel Greenie Stik-M-Caps.

http://www.majormattmason.net/633.htm
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Old March 7, 2013, 04:57 AM   #14
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There are no welds visible.
Take a closer look at the chamber end of the barrels, the trigger guard, and the frame.

Some one welded it up, and did 'just enough' cleanup to make it look like it wasn't made from a junk pile.


I still like it, and would love to have it.
I'm simply saying that I think it was home-built.
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Old March 7, 2013, 09:03 AM   #15
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I wouldn't shoot that thing on a whiskey bet. The poorer examples of these (and this is certainly one) had a reputation for intermittently firing all of the barrels at once.
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Old March 7, 2013, 09:12 AM   #16
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that one will not fire all the barrels at once, with the flap design...

nice thing about muzzleloaders, you can carge it as low as you want, as long as the charge covers the flash hole
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Old March 7, 2013, 10:39 AM   #17
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BillM,

I don't believe that those caps haven't been available since the early 1970s, have they?

Makes some sense, though, as otherwise paper caps would probably just shift out of place...

I'm guessing that this pistol dates from that time, or a bit later...
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Old March 7, 2013, 11:13 AM   #18
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It brings new meaning to the term "cap pistol". . .



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Old March 7, 2013, 01:20 PM   #19
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Having no idea what the barrels are made from (iron water pipe?) I sure wouldn't want to fire that thing. But it does show some ingenuity, though.

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Old March 8, 2013, 07:08 AM   #20
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Barrels look to be made from hex rod. Is there another piece of hex in the center to mount barrels to? How do you index the barrels. Is there a spring detent or just by eye?
I love checking stuff like that out in person. Very cool piece. I dont think I would be willing to take the first pull on a loaded chamber.
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Old March 8, 2013, 08:51 PM   #21
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I vote for the roll cap. The flaps are spring loaded and would clamp the roll cap in place for firing. Also, those greenie stickum caps could be bastards to remove, and I don't see them being easily accessible in this design.
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Old March 8, 2013, 09:04 PM   #22
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Most of ya'll are forgetting sheet caps, made by the old Kilgore firm. They were like stamps used to come maybe forty or fifty to a sheet? These were used in the old double barreled "Pirate Pistols" of the day.

And, indeed, a paper cap will set off a blackpowder charge. We used copper pipe for barrels and would shoot a steel ball bearing through a 1 x 6 board.

My first home made gun had a real hammer~my Dad's claw hammer.

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Old March 9, 2013, 12:38 AM   #23
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Anybody ever hit a roll of caps with a hammer?
Wow!
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Anybody ever hit a roll of caps with a hammer?
Wow!
I probably used up more caps that way then I ever did running them through my cap pistols!
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