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Old March 19, 2013, 06:38 PM   #1
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what type percussion cap?

hello all , I got this black powder gun 20+years ago (been a wall hanger) and have decided to put the musket back into service..its a 1864 Springfield that at some point became a conversion to a cartridge gun and then back, it has a numrich arms repro barrel , seems to be very "solid", took it apart cleaned it all up, but can't seem to find primers for it, the #11's the gunshop showed me are way too small and look more to fit the cap and ball revolvers and modern BP's, looking for the 'winged" musket caps any help appreciated,,thanks!
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Old March 19, 2013, 07:03 PM   #2
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Howdy Rayz nice to see you Graced us here with your very first thread.
Musket caps are a little hard to come by. But if you have a good sporting goods store in your area perhaps its owner can order in a couple tins in for you.There not cheap anymore. I bought 2/ tins last Fall and at that time a tin was near 9.00 bucks. If you have to order from out Sate. There's that extra nasty Hazmat shipping charge. So if it were me I would look around locally first for some help in purchasing.
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Old March 19, 2013, 08:19 PM   #3
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You will probably have to ask them to order them for you as they not a usual shelf item in most stores.

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Old March 20, 2013, 03:53 AM   #4
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thanks for the info! will be checking out some local GS's today-is there a particular brand I should look for ..or stay away from?
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Old March 20, 2013, 04:25 AM   #5
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Stay away from CCI reenactors caps.
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Old March 20, 2013, 08:38 AM   #6
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I have had no problems with CCI Reenactor caps on either my P1853 Enfield nor my Richmond Carbine.

I usually shoot Dynamit Nobel caps, but when I run out the local gun store only carries the CCI caps.

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Old March 20, 2013, 08:53 AM   #7
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Only thing around here is CCIs. Can't say I ever had any trouble with them yet. I found some that I forgot about and they still went bag.
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Old March 20, 2013, 01:54 PM   #8
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Sportsman Warehouse offers RWS musket caps. There suppose to be pretty good aren't they Hawg?
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Old March 20, 2013, 06:56 PM   #9
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RWS is good as well as standard CCI but the reenactor caps are weak.
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Old March 20, 2013, 10:10 PM   #10
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After your comment Hawg on CCI's. I went and did a check on what I have. Gee's lucky me. I got two full tins of them Reenactment ones.__
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Old March 21, 2013, 04:33 AM   #11
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http://www.n-ssa.org/vbforum/showthr...ment-Caps-quot

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/s...4982/cat100011
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Old March 21, 2013, 07:33 AM   #12
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Yup Hawg I see what you mean once read up on the subject. Good thing I don't live all that far from TOTW. I suppose if the CCI's can't be trusted in the field. I'll have to use them up in target practice. Oh well better to know now than be up in a Deer Stand swearing up a storm latter this Fall. Thanks, for posting the links.
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Old March 21, 2013, 08:07 AM   #13
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Now that I think on it, I have had two misfires with CCI reenactor caps. But this was immediately after cleaning on the range so I assumed I had cleaning juice in the bolster.

But with a dry barrel, I've never had a problem with them.

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Old March 21, 2013, 09:33 AM   #14
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Why don't you just put a nipple in it for no. 11 caps?
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Old March 21, 2013, 10:53 AM   #15
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Interesting idea.

I'm not sure if #11 caps have enough bang to set off muskets like musket caps do. Musket caps are quite a bit bigger.

They might also be a bit more fiddly to cap during competition. This has been a criticism against the "wingless" musket caps.

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Old March 21, 2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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Yea, your probably right. I have been shooting no. 11 regular caps on my musket
Since 1972 and never had a problem. But what do I know. Here is a picture
I took of a regular CCI no. 11 cap being fired. If this won't fire your musket,
You got a problem. As far as fidleing with them with your fingers, ever hear
Of a device called a capper? Wonder how the boys cap. Their revolvers?
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Old March 21, 2013, 12:31 PM   #17
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kwhi43 you're probably right, but I took the #11s off my Perdersoli double 10 gauge and put musket nipples on. Had a few misfires with the #11s, probably because I was loading and shooting fast and didn't take much time to clear the fouling. The musket caps blow right through the gunk. I'll never go back to the #11s, unless I can't get musket caps..
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Old March 21, 2013, 02:51 PM   #18
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Yea, your probably right. I have been shooting no. 11 regular caps on my musket Since 1972 and never had a problem. But what do I know.
No need to be snarky about it.

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As far as fidleing with them with your fingers, ever hear
Of a device called a capper? Wonder how the boys cap. Their revolvers?
Cappers are not allowed for long arms in N-SSA competition. They are allowed for revolvers, but that is not what is currently under discussion.

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