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Old February 28, 2013, 05:33 PM   #1
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What is Tactical AR 22 LR ammo?

So I'm scouting the web for ammo and find at Bass Pro a selection for CCI Tactical AR 22 LR ammo.

What's that? It's not in stock but is it special for the AR 22 clones?

Would it run in my tactical 10/22 - it does have a rail and red dot and looks somewhat tacky?

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Old February 28, 2013, 05:46 PM   #2
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For all practical purposes the same as CCI mini-mag.

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/products.aspx

click on detail in front of each ammo and find the statistics for each type.
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Old February 28, 2013, 05:53 PM   #3
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It's the 325 round brick from CCI, that costs a bit more, but is worth it --- with less velocity deviation, consistant ignition, with overall better accuracy than most other brands.

I do like the CCI Blazer 525 round bulk pack for my Ruger SR-22 rifle, but seems to be overlubed with a waxy lube; that tends to make feeding/ejecting my Ruger SA "Hunter" pistol abit cumbersome. It seems to work fine in my SR-22 rifle, which is topped off with a Burris 332, 3X powered tactical scope.

My backorder for CCI Blazer...is already over 3 months now.

For my next best bulk brick ammo for my SR-22 rifle...seems to be the Remington Golden Bullet, 525 round pack.

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Old February 28, 2013, 08:37 PM   #4
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Do you think CCI developed it sell the same stuff

Do you think CCI developed it sell the same stuff but at a Higher cost in a different package and name? Naw..Never...They would not Dare Do that..

I use 40 grain CCI Blazer in my dedicated .22LR AR15 upper and it works fantastic and extremely accurate............

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Old February 28, 2013, 08:47 PM   #5
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I am going to assume it's similar to what Remington did with their line of HD Ultimate Home Defense Ammo, which is EXACTLY the same as the golden sabers. Same brass, same powder, same bullet, same muzzle velocity and energy, just different packaging.
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Old February 28, 2013, 09:13 PM   #6
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Old February 28, 2013, 11:28 PM   #7
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DO NOT USE IT IN YOU RUGER TACTICAL 10/22!
It is specifically designed for the AR 22 rifles.

It has a special superubertanuium coating on it which will cause a gargantuan increase in energy, but will be dangerous in you 10/22.

Also all your friends will think you are an idiot for buying "tactical ammo"
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Old February 28, 2013, 11:32 PM   #8
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I've seen the ammo in gun stores and CCI claims its made to function more reliably in semi auto guns.

All my semi auto .22 guns seem to function just fine on various brands of bulk packed ammo including my dedicated .22 tactical AR15. I suspect its nothing more than a tactical gimmick to sell less ammo for more money.
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Old March 1, 2013, 12:07 AM   #9
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Would it run in my tactical 10/22 - it does have a rail and red dot and looks somewhat tacky?
I just realized what a strong similarity there is between "tactical" and "tacky." It's on several levels, actually.

As far as I can tell, it's simply high-velocity copper-jacket stuff like Mini-Mags. However, it doesn't group well with my Marlin. Could be due to the fact that the Marlin likes lead better, or it could be that the rifle isn't tactical enough.
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Old March 1, 2013, 12:08 AM   #10
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I've used this ammo before in my CMMG 22LR dedicated AR-15 and it works great, but so does every other bulk ammo.

It has a LOT of waxy bullet lube that builds up on the magazine feed lips and feed ramp, but is OK otherwise.
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Old March 1, 2013, 07:56 AM   #11
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I tried it when they first came out. I had one dud out of the box. Haven't bought one since. I think it's a marketing gimmick.
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Old March 1, 2013, 11:03 AM   #12
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It's regular ammo with a tactical pricetag.
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Old March 1, 2013, 06:10 PM   #13
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733t compliance part for use in the US per regulation of the Mall Ninja Association.
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Old March 2, 2013, 02:16 AM   #14
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Well, if it's essentially MiniMags in a bulk box, then it may be worth buying if it costs less per round than MiniMags in the plastic 100 box.... yes?
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Old March 3, 2013, 04:47 PM   #15
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they have a little different shape to the bullet and are copper washed to help with feeding in AR type .22 rifles.

I didn't see any difference in the 3 rifles I tried it in so I'm sticking to federal bulk
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Old March 3, 2013, 05:38 PM   #16
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I would not say they are a gimmick or a marketing ploy.
I bought the Umarex "Colt" M-4 style .22 rimfire with a lot of extra magazines. I noticed the CCI Tactical had a different bullet shape that I found to work exceptionally well in this type of high-volume shooter. I'd also say I had very poor results from several other brands, but no problems at all with this "tactical". True, I also had good results with some Federals, in particular the Auto-Match. The CCI Tacticals worked much better as far as feeding in my rifle compared to the common round nose shape.

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Old March 4, 2013, 04:37 AM   #17
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they have a little different shape to the bullet...
Interesting... thanks for pointing that out.
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Old March 4, 2013, 09:00 PM   #18
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I picked up some when it first came out....yes, the bullet contour is a bit different than what I had sitting on the shelf. I "heard" it was developed for the M&P 15-22 which as most know has been one heck of a seller. It did hit the market some time after the M&P started getting popular. I've no idea if there was anything to this rumor or not. Makes no difference to me.

As for accuracy, I just flipped through a notebook of targets I kept when I was checking accuracy on my M&P15-22. Compared to Federal bulk, the Tactical AR ammo produced 10 shot groups at 50 yards that were slightly less than half the size of the Federal. I also evaluated Federal Gold Medal Target, Remington Target by Eley, Winchester T-22, Fiocchi Biathlon Super Match, Aguila Super Max, and as I said, Federal Bulk. Of those, only the Eley beat it, and then by just .37".

For bulk ammo, it does quite well in my M&P 15-22....especially when looking at the cost of what many of the above brands set me back.

I found it not too bad for just silly marketing hype. As they say, YMMV.
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Old March 4, 2013, 09:30 PM   #19
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It's black, has a rail, and it's scary.
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Old March 5, 2013, 12:38 PM   #20
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I hope CCI releases an assault .22 ammo, surely it would be more killy.





All joking aside, even if you are disturbed by the "Tactical AR 22LR" name, the ammo seems to have merits in certain applications - just buy a box and throw away the original container if the "tactical label" bothers you, and enjoy.
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