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Old February 20, 2013, 08:26 AM   #1
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Bullseye or Unique ?

Which is your powder of choice for 45 ACP ? Which is cleaner and which meters better ?
Asking about target and also full loads.
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Old February 20, 2013, 08:46 AM   #2
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I started with Unique but have since switched to Green Dot. 5.4 grains pushing 230 grn FMJ bullets works well for me. I switched because I had some old green dot from when I used to load shotguns and wanted to use it up. Unique worked well too, 5.6-6.0 grains. Both meter find for me.
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Old February 20, 2013, 09:11 AM   #3
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I use to load unique in the 45acp, now use bullseye or titegroup.
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Old February 20, 2013, 09:28 AM   #4
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Bullseye's smaller grains meter better. Flake powders never meter great, but smaller is better in this regard because it is harder for small flakes to bridge a given span.

Neither powder is pristinely clean burning. Unique's formula was changed a number of years back to burn cleaner than the original, but I haven't used the newer stuff, so I can't say how much cleaner. For the light target loads I was using at the time, the original left a lot of unburned flakes behind, so I never took to it.

The main reason I haven't tried the newer version is that I discovered Hodgdon Universal Clays, which is cleaner burning and better metering than either Bullseye or Unique and which handles the functions of both closely enough for my current purposes. Most pistol loads of Universal seem to lie inbetween Bullseye and Unique charge weights, leaning toward the latter in my experiments.
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Old February 20, 2013, 09:42 AM   #5
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I use a lot of Bullseye, it is not the cleanest or the dirtiest, it is not the best metering or the worst, it is however one of the most versatile, oldest, and best selling powders available.
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Old February 20, 2013, 10:27 AM   #6
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I've tried with other powders to beat Bullseye in performance, versatility and accuracy in 45acp and 38 Special and have not been able to do it.
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Old February 20, 2013, 12:54 PM   #7
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Bullseye
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Old February 20, 2013, 12:56 PM   #8
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Couldn't tell you about better but I have been using bullseye in 45ACP and 38/.357 since 1973 and feel no great need to change what works for me.
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Old February 20, 2013, 01:44 PM   #9
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I prefer Bullseye myself.
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Old February 20, 2013, 02:16 PM   #10
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I prefer Bullseye in the 45 ACP with 200 LSWC and 230 LRN/FMJ.

However, if you want one powder that covers almost all calibers well, go with Unique.
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Old February 20, 2013, 03:07 PM   #11
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#1 Bullseye
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Old February 20, 2013, 05:45 PM   #12
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does anyone know if the new Unique is actually cleaner than the older Unique ?
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Old February 20, 2013, 05:56 PM   #13
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does anyone know if the new Unique is actually cleaner than the older Unique ?

A little improvement...still pretty dirty.
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Old February 20, 2013, 11:32 PM   #14
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If it's like around here, neither Bullseye or Unique is available. I've been using Hodgdon Clays for a few years now and can still find it on the shelf since many folks apparently think of it as a shotgun powder. It's nice and soft shooting in 45 acp. Seems to meter just fine too.
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Old February 21, 2013, 01:18 PM   #15
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Bullseye powder was the powder that was used in the 1911 45 acp in World War two.
If it was good enough to tackle the hun. Then its good enough for me.
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Old February 22, 2013, 06:16 PM   #16
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I could care less whether a powder is clean or dirty. I use Unique as it is bulky and I will know if I get a double-charge. Safety first.
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Old February 22, 2013, 11:10 PM   #17
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Of the two I prefer Bullseye
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Old February 23, 2013, 11:22 AM   #18
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I started using Unique with my 1911 but it was just so dirty when I got done shooting just 150-200 rounds through it I would clean forever on it. I am using AA No.5 now and love it. Its shoots more accurate and is very clean.
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Old February 23, 2013, 12:03 PM   #19
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I prefer Bull's Eye in .45 auto becasue it still works. Yes Unique will work, though it does not meter well, and in .45 auto it does not hit the pressure level that will make burn cleaner.

If you like to weigh every charge, and trickle up Unique is the way to go. You will get lots of practice. If you want something that you can set a decent powder measure to throw with uber consistincy then Bulls Eye would be my choice.
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Old February 23, 2013, 05:40 PM   #20
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Bullseye for me also.
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Old February 24, 2013, 06:48 PM   #21
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I have used a lot or 700X and 231, and am now working with Unique and Bullseye. 700X is my favourite powder and I find 231 leaves a lot of residue.
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Old March 3, 2013, 01:07 PM   #22
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Bullseye or Unique in 38's and 9mm I can't see any difference. Am I missing something? I shoot my own cast bullets so smoke is just the nature of the beast. Use W231 for 45 cap and get great results from both my Glock 36 and a couple of 1911's.
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Old March 3, 2013, 02:26 PM   #23
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Bullseye is cleaner and meters better but it's not my choice. I like WST in 45 auto.
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Old March 3, 2013, 05:32 PM   #24
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Bullseye also burns a little faster, so you can load it to lower target load levels and still have it work consistently, where Unique starts leaving unburned flakes around at low load levels. On the other hand, Unique can be loaded to a little bit more velocity without going over the peak pressure limit.
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Old March 3, 2013, 06:29 PM   #25
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