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Old February 27, 2013, 05:50 PM   #1
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Bringing an obsolete caliber back to commercial production

If you could resurrect any obsolete centerfire rifle caliber and have it magically re-commercialized by all the major gunmakers again, which one would you choose?








I realize you can build a custom rifle in any obsolete caliber you wish but some people like me dont have the money for it.

I'll keep my opinion quiet for awhile. I want to see what everyone else thinks.
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:00 PM   #2
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Judging by what I see on the shelves, these are the obsolete cartridges I would like to see brought back:

.22 LR
9mm
.38
.357Mag
.44Mag
45 ACP
30-30
.308 Win
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Old February 27, 2013, 07:38 PM   #3
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5mm Remington Mag.
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Old February 27, 2013, 07:56 PM   #4
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Dardick Tround.
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Old February 27, 2013, 08:50 PM   #5
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33WCF. 348 Winchester. 25 Stevens. 5mm rimfire. Herter's 401 Powermag. 303 Savage.
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:04 PM   #6
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Someone is making 5mm Remington ammo again. Aguila?

I would choose...

.425 Wesley Richards

6mm Lee Navy

.250 Savage (no, it's not really obsolete, but it is slipping, and that's a shame because of what a wonderful cartridge it is)

.32-40 Winchester
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:08 PM   #7
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Mike Irwin wrote: Someone is making 5mm Remington ammo again. Aguila?
I am incorrect....Centurion......Aguila

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Old February 27, 2013, 09:09 PM   #8
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PatientWolf- yea, tell me about it....

I like the 5mm remington idea

somebody school me on the 6mm Lee Navy. I've heard of it but other than that I know nothing.
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:20 PM   #9
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6mm Lee Navy, also known as the .236 Lee, .236 Navy, or .236 Winchester, was adopted along with the Lee Straight Pull rifle in 1895.

It used a 112-gr. jacketed round nose bullet that was, like many of the 6.5mm military cartridges, very long and had ferocious sectional density, meaning that it was very low on wounding power.

It didn't make it either as a military cartridge or commercially largely because the powders available then simply weren't right for such a small bore high velocity (relatively speaking) cartridge.

Realistically, the 6mm Remington and .243 Winchester can't do anything this cartridge couldn't.

Winchester did use the case as the basis for the .220 Swift.
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:26 PM   #10
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To heck with the 5mm, give me a .25 Stevens rimfire. 60-65 gr pill at 1100- 1200 fps from a handgun, 1800-1900 from a rifle. E. Keith was right about this one. People dropped the ball on it.

For centerfire.......... Ruger needs to bring back the .32H&R in their Single Six and to keep with the rifle forum Marlin needs to bring back it's lever gun in that chambering. I like the idea of the .250 Savage and will add another not quite dead cartridge, the .222 Rem. Glad Savage is now chambering it in their 25.
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:42 PM   #11
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I'm with Mike! Just had to say that but seriously I'm not too interested in any of his suggestions except the .250-3000 Savage. Cool little round that is an awesome deer and pronghorn cartridge for youth IMO. The .243 has all but killed this cartridge off except for seasonal runs of ammunition.

I'd like to see the .338-06 brought back out in a commercial run. I wish Savage, Winchester, Remington, Ruger, and Weatherby/Howa would build rifles in it. Weatherby did build it but at $60+ for ammunition and $1200+ for the rifle priced it out of range of most shooters. If Federal, Hornady, Winchester, and Remington would produce ammunition in the $30 price range the round might have been more of a commercial success.

.358 Win is another I'd like to see brougt back. Ruger dropped it from the lineup a couple years ago, and very little commercial support in the ammunition department. Great little short range thumper for just about anything you want to point it at in the lower 48, plus it is efficient and works well in short (20") barreled rifles.
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:49 PM   #12
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I'd like to see how that 6mm Lee Navy would do with modern bullets and powders...
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Old February 27, 2013, 10:24 PM   #13
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Someone is making 5mm Remington ammo again. Aguila?
You are correct as ammo is available, but the OP said having calibers brought back by gunmakers, not ammo makers. I wish it would be chambered in rifles again...competition for the new .17WSM. The OP said centerfire...but I would like to see that rimfire option available again.

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If you could resurrect any obsolete centerfire rifle caliber and have it magically re-commercialized by all the major gunmakers again,
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Old February 27, 2013, 10:44 PM   #14
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No rimfires?

Shucks, I was gonna add 44 Henry...... Well then, how 'bout 35WCF?
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Old February 27, 2013, 11:36 PM   #15
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I would love to see the Win .375 big bore back in action.
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Old February 28, 2013, 05:28 AM   #16
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Gosh this looks like fun!

How 'bout the .256 Win mag? Tons of .357 brass with which to make ammo.
A new slick poly tipped .25 poly tipped slug, and a good traditional soft point.

A nice repeater like the old Levermatic, maybe on the Ruger 96 action, and a bolt rifle for the accuracy buffs. MIght as well put it in the Handi-Rifle single shot as well.

Always wanted a Levermatic .256 .........never happend. Ruger would never resurrect the 96 (darn bean counters) so.....lets get Henry to make it!!!!!
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Old February 28, 2013, 06:33 AM   #17
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I know it is available commercially but hardly ever chambered in any of the major manufacturers guns.

But I would like to see a resurgence in the .220 swift

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Also would like to see bolt rifles and US manufactured 5mm remington rimfire magnum ammunition.
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Old February 28, 2013, 06:55 AM   #18
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Old February 28, 2013, 07:42 AM   #19
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"brought back by gunmakers"

Blah blah blah, details details!

Who cares who brings them back, as long as they are back?
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Old February 28, 2013, 08:05 AM   #20
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The 6mm Remington is a better cartridge than the .243 Win, but I live with the .243. The .280 Rem is better for larger animals than the .270 Win, but I live with the .270.

We don't really need to have more cartridges, we should be happy that we have great cartridges still being made. The big box stores are dictating which rounds will continue, just by offering them on their shelves, whether you or I buy our ammo there or not. Try finding .260 Rem ammo at Wal-Mart, even 7mm-08. You might find a box or two, but it probably won't be YOUR favorite brand or bullet weight.

Manufacturers look at sales figures and delete those cartridges that don't sell well. Sales, not specific qualities of a particular cartridge drives obsolescence. Believe it!

(I'm not talking about the recent aberration cause by recent massacres and following political threats to firearm/magazine ownership.)
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Old February 28, 2013, 08:12 AM   #21
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Old February 28, 2013, 08:21 AM   #23
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307 & 356 Winchesters, and a Quarter bore in the 308 family
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Old February 28, 2013, 09:35 AM   #24
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32 Rimfire. Sadly I have several old rifles chambered in it, but no ammo to shoot
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Old February 28, 2013, 11:18 AM   #25
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I'm a 6.5 mm guy, and I would love to see the 6.5 Remington Magnum make a comeback. I would be interested in the 6mm Remington if other companies started making brass for it.
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