The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Conference Center > Law and Civil Rights

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old February 19, 2013, 09:58 AM   #1
Spats McGee
Staff
 
Join Date: July 28, 2010
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 4,957
NY: Reciprocity bill

While perusing NY bills in an attempt to help out in another thread, I ran across this: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/A3291-2013

As I don't travel to NY often, nor have any immediate plans to do so, I am not entirely sure what the law of NY (state) is. This bill, however, states that it is
Quote:
AN ACT to amend the penal law, in relation to allowing individuals duly
licensed out-of-state to carry a pistol or firearm to carry such weap
on within the state for a limited duration
Would this change the law? Any New Yorkers want to weigh in on its odds of passage?
__________________
A gunfight is not the time to learn new skills.

If you ever have a real need for more than a couple of magazines, your problem is not a shortage of magazines. It's a shortage of people on your side of the argument. -- Art Eatman
Spats McGee is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 10:02 AM   #2
Scimmia
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 19, 2011
Location: Eastern IA
Posts: 428
Universal recognition? I'm not a New Yorker, but the phrase "snowball's chance..." comes to mind.
Scimmia is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 10:04 AM   #3
NJgunowner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 13, 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,066
Eh, considering the BS that just happened in NY do you really believe that ANY pro-gun bills are going to get passed? It'll happen about a week after NJ does it, which means NEVER.
__________________
Sig 1911 Traditional reverse two tone, Sig p226 .40, Sig 556 Swat patrol, Baby Eagle/jerico steel .45
NJgunowner is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 10:36 AM   #4
kayakersteve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 17, 2007
Location: Western NY
Posts: 922
Being from NY, and acutely aware of the anti-gun movement here, I would not expect any reasonable gun laws to have a chance.
__________________
See Ya!
kayakersteve is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 10:53 AM   #5
Yankee Traveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 17, 2008
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 231
It is a great idea. I travel through NY on my way to VT and this would fit me perfectly...for the few hours I am on the Thruway/Northway.


Sadly, common sense will not prevail.
Yankee Traveler is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 10:55 AM   #6
armabill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 16, 2001
Location: Glenolden, Pa. USA
Posts: 202
So what is a "limited duration"?
armabill is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 11:09 AM   #7
Yankee Traveler
Senior Member
 
Join Date: April 17, 2008
Location: Middle Tennessee
Posts: 231
I believe the article said 30 days. Not more than 30 or up to 30 or something of the sort.
Yankee Traveler is offline  
Old February 19, 2013, 11:40 AM   #8
rwilson452
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 10, 2004
Location: Tioga co. PA
Posts: 2,358
If I'm reading it correctly, Out of staters would be exempt for the mag limit in the safe act.

I think some one can see the hand writing on the wall. Current law will not pass constitutional muster.
__________________
USNRET '61-'81
rwilson452 is online now  
Old February 19, 2013, 07:16 PM   #9
Aguila Blanca
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 25, 2008
Location: CONUS
Posts: 6,188
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwilson452
If I'm reading it correctly, Out of staters would be exempt for the mag limit in the safe act.
Where do you see that? I don't see any mention of an exemption from the NY magazine limit law.

Which makes this law, if it were to pass, a real trap for the unwary, because there are VERY few semi-automatic handguns that are compliant with the NY law. Some of the new, small, pocket pistols are, and "compact" 1911s, for example, but no standard, Government model or Commander 1911 would be legal because even the original 7-round GI magazines can be converted to hold 8 rounds in about a minute (if you take your time).

It makes me wonder if the NY legislators perhaps know this, and view this as a law that makes them look good without really giving away much of anything.
Aguila Blanca is offline  
Old February 20, 2013, 12:35 AM   #10
62coltnavy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 1, 2011
Posts: 206
NYS does have a limited reciprocity law--but it does not apply specifically in NYC. Unless you have a permit issued by NYC you cannot even lawfully possess a firearm--no matter what the federal law says on the subject. Now of course the judges will not enforce this carve out and will apply the federal safe harbor, but plan on paying a lawyer and sacrificing your gun (you would be entitled to its return, but it just ain't gonna happen). Either that or pay a small fine for a misdemeanor and lose your gun. Sucks big time.
62coltnavy is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.08704 seconds with 9 queries