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Old February 19, 2013, 09:58 PM   #26
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I fired one that was on a friends rifle, the "full auto" is slower than the real thing IMO. I have only fired 1 select fire weapon, a rental several years ago, that one seemed much faster cycling. I suspect this was because it was a bump fire rather than a real full auto weapon.

I did find it to be pretty easy to aim and keep on target, this was on a AR15.
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Old February 20, 2013, 12:55 AM   #27
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I don't see a problem with them, and if they weren't so damn expensive I might buy one for myself.

For those who wish to experience full auto fire, it's certainly a better option than a $15k - $30k registered machine gun and the paperwork, regulation, and months of wait time that go with it. I don't think they are really viable for anything other than burning through a can of ammo and killing paper targets, but that sure can be fun sometimes.
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Old February 20, 2013, 03:16 AM   #28
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Huge waste of ammo.












I'm glad I got one!
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Old February 20, 2013, 04:24 AM   #29
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Wow, some hatin' going on here. Clowns and toys? Hilarious that people get riled over something like this, how silly people can be at times.
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Old February 20, 2013, 11:25 AM   #30
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Gimick. Toy. Impractical. This is what comes to my mind.
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Old February 20, 2013, 11:51 PM   #31
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I guess I am a firearms clown than since I have fired both select fire and slide fire stocked firearms.. as well as bump fired a few AR-15's and even some M1A's in my day.

I have even dropped a loaded AR-15 out of a moving cars window before..... (Large bump during a move and shoot drill, my driver decided he was going to hit a rock in the middle of the quarry...unfortunately I disconnected my sling to get inside the truck easier, thankfully I built some tough AR's)

Funny thing is all the people with me on the range that day between the few Retired SF guys.. Marines.. Sherrifs.. and State Troopers... no one called me a clown.

Yes a firearm is always dangerous... doesn't mean it cant be a toy. I do have my "serious" use firearms.. but I also work in the industry right now for a living. However my .22 HK MP5 by Umarex... and a few IPSC race guns and what not I own/ have owned.. were nothing but toys... used to play a GAME, where you score points.
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Old February 22, 2013, 12:16 AM   #32
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They are fun. I want to put one on my mp15-22 and then a can on it. Pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew.

Amazingly enough we can have fun with guns and be safe.
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Old February 22, 2013, 01:55 AM   #33
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As others have said, its fun for a range provided you have a good high backstop and no ceiling to worry about (some ranges ive been to don't allow em because inexperienced shooters often put rounds up way high, as with any full auto). but for any real shooting? Lets say this much, if I had a slidefire stock, and the proverbial sht-proverbial-f, well, I'd use the slidefire as a starter log and keep a good old A1 stock. Too much play in em to be truly accurate.

i'd take the 300 bucks and get some ammo and a tax stamp for my new invention... the rubber band... and my stock wouldn't wobble incessantly. if thats even possible. I prefer semi anyway. but if you happen to wipe your windows or your ass with legal tender, than its a pretty cool little novelty item.
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Old February 22, 2013, 10:22 AM   #34
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Oh Lord, have some fun!!!! Yes, buy one if you don't have NFA toys. Personally, I like the one made by Fostech - would buy one if I could find one used in the $300 range - this is an all metal/aluminum version for the AR - there is also a good one made for the AK by Bumpinski or something like that.

If you don't want to use it to bump-fire, then it can be locked down for semi-auto fire. Spend the freakin money now. If you get bored with it, sell it and make a profit in the future. If you think someone will be making a decent one in several years that you can buy, you are probably wrong. If it works, ATF will put them out of business....and they work.

People spend $200 just on a stamp to be able to spend $10,000 for a gun that does basically the same thing. $300 - $500 is dirt cheap thrills.

Yes, be careful not to over-pay....i.e. be patient, but if you even think you like full-auto then just do it.

Let's get real here - I have only two serious guns. One is a Ruger LC9 - pocket 9mm for personal protection and the other is a Savage 110 30-06 for hunting. Nothing fancy, fast, shiny, or sexy about either. The rest of my guns are basically toys for my enjoyment. Anyone who thinks its stupid to add a new widget to a gun to make it go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM faster is has an overstated opinion of the importance of their firearms stash. Who knows, the Bumpinski (or whatever) might even be a useful tool in a SHTF scenario.....but then again, who cares - boomboomboomboomboomboom is fun!

What do y'all think about this for a tag line: "Board Certified Gun-Clown".

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Old February 22, 2013, 10:29 AM   #35
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has an overstated opinion of the importance of their firearms stash.
+ 1. Kinda what I was trying to say but you did it better.
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Old February 23, 2013, 01:00 AM   #36
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I have one for my AR and it works quite well. Takes a few hundred rounds to get the hang of it but the accuracy is not much worse than full auto.

For the people saying pay the tax stamp and go FA some numbers.

Slidefire: $360
Full Auto AR: $12,000
DIAS: $9,000
[Feel free to correct me if I am too low. If I am too high by all means point me towards the bargain machinegun]

So essentially I will take that slidefire and a few thousands of rounds and practice. And I still come out ahead of the well heeled gentlemen that chose the FA + the paper colonoscopy you have to go through to get it.

And it's nice having a potential autofire option. Nothing says get the hell away from me like a 30 round mag dump.
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Old February 23, 2013, 02:35 AM   #37
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Nothing says get the hell away from me like a 30 round mag dump.
Hahaha. Great point.
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Old February 23, 2013, 10:11 AM   #38
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DIAS: $9,000
That's 2007 pricing. I'd say they go for closer to $13,000 +/- $1000.

I would never get into full-auto at today's prices. If I hadn't purchased my AC556 for $2,500 10+ years ago, I would probably have several slide-fire type stocks. Now, I'm considering one of these stocks because my AC556 is becoming too valuable to shoot! I'd rather burn out a $250 barrel or crack a $200 upper receiver than break something on an AC556. Parts kits are going for almost what I paid for the gun - $1,800.
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Old February 23, 2013, 10:40 AM   #39
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What do you think about slide fire stocks?

Is modern day slide fire stock still just $300? I would think they got high with everything else, but I haven't looked.
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Old February 23, 2013, 10:55 AM   #40
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A local mom and pop gun shop had one for the AR-15 about a month ago for 400.
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Old February 26, 2013, 05:26 PM   #41
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Is modern day slide fire stock still just $300? I would think they got high with everything else, but I haven't looked.
I still see them for $360 for an AR and $299 for the AK.

The FosTech stock I ordered was $600 all done but I bought the left handed attachment so that I can swap it out if I want to share with friends (not just yet though). (That one's going on a bigger gun)

With Slidefire's plastic you are locked into one handedness. That's great if you are a righty; not so great as a lefty.
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Old February 26, 2013, 07:32 PM   #42
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I'd like to rent one for the weekend. Does any one know where that would be possible? I think a couple of hours for a couple of days would be sufficient.
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Old February 26, 2013, 09:06 PM   #43
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At today's ammo rates, that's $30 for a couple of seconds. A high class escort or a trip to disney world would be cheaper than that. But seriously, they look fun yet not very practical. I'd be all for it on somebody else's rifle if they're giving me ammo. Otherwise, I have no more opinion on someone else owning one than a Ruger Blackhawk or a Remington 700. Just a different type of gun or tool and if you can use it safely and effectively (or safely and have a lot of fun with it) that's all that matters.
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Old February 27, 2013, 12:03 AM   #44
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I have the 2nd gen SF stock for AR variants.

I put a total of 1 (one) 20rd magazine of .223 through it.
Yep, fun for sure but $12-$25 in 3 seconds is too rich for my budget.

The SF now lives on my M&P 15-22.
With a light (3lb) JP trigger in the lower it cycles just fine even with the minimal .22 LR recoil.
With rimfire ammo it is a LOT of fun and is plenty affordable for me. Got a couple extra 25rd magazines.

I don't see them (the SF stock) as available forever, and so I bought one when I could.
Plus, I can always throw it onto one of my 'real' rifles if I ever want/need to.
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Old February 27, 2013, 12:53 AM   #45
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After shooting an M60 and the M2 (when Uncle Sam is buying the blammo)...

... no interest in (buying, or feeding) a slide fire. It would be nothing more than an expensive, unremarkable experience.
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Old February 27, 2013, 01:04 AM   #46
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Don't mean to spoil the fun, just being honest.
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Old February 27, 2013, 01:35 PM   #47
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http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...m=slide%20fire

"is stock" at natchez
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Old February 27, 2013, 03:53 PM   #48
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.. no interest in (buying, or feeding) a slide fire. It would be nothing more than an expensive, unremarkable experience.
The real question is "can you get good at aimed fire with a slide-fire stock". If you can get almost as good as someone using 3-burst on an M16, with practice, I'd think they could be useful in certain situations. Some people turn their noses up at magazines with more than 5 rounds, claiming that's not really useful for average Joe gun owner. We have to use what we have. Slide-fire is legal and (apparently, because I haven't tried one) works.
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Old February 27, 2013, 04:00 PM   #49
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It might be possible to make one yourself with a little work so long as you have a telescoping stock to work with.
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Old February 28, 2013, 04:59 AM   #50
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hoot

Seems like it'd be the proverbial hoot to shoot, but I will not shell out for the stock, or the ammo it would take to enjoy it.
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