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Old February 22, 2013, 01:40 PM   #1
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Gen4 Glock 19 Review




The Glock 19 is probably the most popular gun in America and for good reason---it's reasonably priced, reliable, rugged, accurate, and simple to maintain. But in the last couple years its' reputation has taken a hit and some of that came from me. I had a Gen4 G19 (PYU###) serial number and it was terrible---malfunctions/brass to the face/erratic ejection/ect... Well Glock replaced that gun and that gun is what this review's about. Let's get into it...

Pros:
-Reliable. The gun has had 0 malfunctions
-Accurate. It's more accurate than I am, that's for sure.
-Durable -Easy to maintain
-TONS of aftermarket support due to its' popularity and longevity.
-Accepts 15, 17, and 33 round factory magazines
-Glock's customer service is excellent
-Durable finish
-Cheap replacement parts, should you ever need them
-Low Bore Axis resulting in a soft shooting gun, especially for the weight.
-Easily modified to fit the shooters' preferences
-Requires very little cleaning/lubrication to run reliably
-"Medium-sized" frame works well for both duty use and concealed carry.
-Improved grip texture on the Gen4 guns


Cons:
-Recent history of problems in the post 2010 models
-Comes with a serrated trigger (even the US models)
-Availability these days.

Chrono numbers:

Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p : 1232 FPS, 418 FT/LBS energy
Federal HST 124gr : 1155 FPS, 367 FT/LBS energy


Here's a video with some shooting from the 12m line, a size comparison, a demonstration of shooting it with some loads often blamed for the recent issues, and a chronograph test with some popular carry/defensive loads:

Gen 4 Glock 19 HD Video Review Link
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Old February 22, 2013, 01:58 PM   #2
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Thanks for the review especially for taking it apart and show n tell of updated parts.

oh and the happy stick!
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Old February 23, 2013, 05:33 AM   #3
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I still hear guys complain about the brass to the face problem though.....even in the newest iteration of the gun....
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Old February 23, 2013, 06:55 AM   #4
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I guess the brass to the face doesn't happen with the big caliber Glocks, that's all I've owned and never had a problem.
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Old February 23, 2013, 08:48 AM   #5
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"Brass to face" is a well documented problem for many Gen 4's. Seems that the extractor design was changed from the Gen 3's. My Gen 3 has a "throw too far" issue...it's constantly flinging the cases more than 10 feet...
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Old February 24, 2013, 08:53 AM   #6
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"Brass to face" is a well documented problem for many Gen 4's. Seems that the extractor design was changed from the Gen 3's. My Gen 3 has a "throw too far" issue...it's constantly flinging the cases more than 10 feet...
My guess is the slide on some is out of spec. I tried extractors from several other properly functioning 9mm Glocks in my problem one and still had the same issue. I also used the 'problem gun' extractor in several properly functioning Glocks and they ran fine.

This would also explain why Glock didn't recall them---too much money to replace all the slides; sending out extractors would have only cost them a couple bucks per gun---I'm pretty sure they would have done that to 'solve the issue.'
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Old February 24, 2013, 09:53 AM   #7
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Gen4 Glock 19 Review

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I still hear guys complain about the brass to the face problem though.....even in the newest iteration of the gun....
Bingo. That's my issue. Hence why I sold my gen 4. All my 3's and my 2 have been perfect
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Old February 24, 2013, 08:27 PM   #8
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Any of those Gen3s 2010 or later?
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Old February 24, 2013, 09:07 PM   #9
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I have a post 2010 Gen 3 G23. out of a few thousand rounds i did get smacked right in the forehead once. this was recently. but only the one time have i seen abnormal ejection with it
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Old February 24, 2013, 11:06 PM   #10
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Simple fix: shoot gangsta style for correct side ejection
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Old February 24, 2013, 11:09 PM   #11
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Finally got around to watching this. Thx for putting it together, plouffedaddy. Good info to have.
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Old February 24, 2013, 11:10 PM   #12
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It seems post 2010 Gen3 guns(I have one) had the same ejector problems as the Gen4 guns had(I have one of those too.) Replaced the ejector in the Gen3 with the new design and most of the problems went away. Both guns give you one to the head once in a while but not very often. Something I can live with now.
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Old February 25, 2013, 03:39 PM   #13
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Thanks for the review.
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Old March 9, 2013, 02:38 PM   #14
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Get a Gen 2 or Gen 3 (2 pin ) G19. No MIM. The best they made to date!
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Old March 9, 2013, 03:11 PM   #15
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Does the Gen 4 G19 have the limp wristing issue that the Nickle-Boron coated ones seem to?
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Old March 9, 2013, 03:36 PM   #16
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Get a Gen 2 or Gen 3 (2 pin ) G19. No MIM. The best they made to date!
You assume I don't have both

Gen 2 HD Video Review

Gen3 FDE G19 HD Video Review
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Old March 9, 2013, 03:37 PM   #17
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Does the Gen 4 G19 have the limp wristing issue that the Nickle-Boron coated ones seem to?
All Glocks, particularly 9mm ones, are susceptible to limp wrist malfunctions.
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Old March 10, 2013, 12:56 AM   #18
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I have one of the first Gen4 G19's made (July 2010 test fire date). It came with all of the "bad" parts in it (0-3 spring, old ejector, etc.) yet it worked perfectly. Once the upgraded parts came out I put them in regardless just to have my pistol up to the latest specs..... and guess what? Erratic ejection and brass to the face! I promptly put the old parts back in and everything was fine again. Go figure.
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Old March 10, 2013, 02:35 AM   #19
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Mine is 2011 case dated, "R-----" serial. Running flawlessly. Fantastic firearm.
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Old March 11, 2013, 10:24 PM   #20
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I have a Glock 19 that I just picked up. Actually like it more than my 17. Not one issue with brass to the face. I ran 5 different kinds of ammo through it. When I first got into Semi autos, I never thought I'd like/appreciate Glocks so much. I now own 5. They are so reliable, easy to shoot for light weight guns, accurate, easy to work on, parts are easy to find. Just can't go wrong with the 19. Great all around gun for the money.
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