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Old July 18, 2012, 08:15 AM   #1
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Comments on S&W SD40 VE

Looking for comments. Not terribly fond of fixed sights but I assume that is something that can be "corrected"? Thanks!
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Old July 18, 2012, 03:19 PM   #2
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Excellent pistols, love my two sd's 9mm & 40. No issues at all. These are real sleepers and gems.
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Old July 18, 2012, 03:30 PM   #3
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Mine was terrible. I had over a 50% (103 out of 200) failure to feed ratio. I handled one that still had heavy tool marks on the slide and bought one anyway. Will not buy one again. I have alot of 3rd gen Smiths that are flawless and a Shield9 that has been flawless but the SD40VE was my worst experience with a gun to date. I was lucky enough to have a stand up LGS.
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Old July 18, 2012, 03:31 PM   #4
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You'll find allot more positive reviews than negative.

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Old July 18, 2012, 05:40 PM   #5
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Willmc33 you know the more I thought about it with that many malfunctions 103 out of 200 could you have mixed 9mm in with 40S&W. I have seen this on the range many times, very common problem considering there is only one millimeter difference. Would they have been any chance you had a box of 9mm in there by accident. I had to separate the ammo to different tables the issue got that bad. It's an easy mistake to make. This will cause the exact type of problems you had. No offense to you it's just a thought. Some guy did this on you tube and talks about it.
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Old July 18, 2012, 05:48 PM   #6
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Negative. It was an unopened 100 round pack of 180 grain Federal Champion and 2 50 round boxes of 165 grain Winchester White Box.
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Old February 20, 2013, 12:06 PM   #7
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SD 40 VE

sent my sd 40 back on January 28th and as of today Feb 20th they still have not looked at it, rep said they are 4-6 weeks out on repairs. How can there be that many returns? Obviously Smith is going in the wrong direction with quality. My SD 40 was shooting 10 inches low at 20 feet, no it wasn't me I had other try it. The brass had a huge bulge almost to the point of cartridge separation and the trigger retaining pin would not stay in. I used 4 different brands of ammo the results were the same. This gun sucks and when I finally get it back i am not keeping it let alone buying anything smith again. Spend the extra 100 bucks ang go with something else.
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Old February 20, 2013, 12:18 PM   #8
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While there are definitely quality control hiccups, the good ones seem to be extremely well made for the price point.
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Old February 20, 2013, 12:54 PM   #9
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buddah4snow The sdseries is a solid handgun with way less problems than the more costly M&P line. Only down time for some is trigger pull weight and with a low cost APEX trigger spring kit its much improved. Can't do better for 300dollars. Oh for those trigger whinners BUY a sig with a da trigger. Triggers are no better.


william if you pay attention to failure to fire treads the two brands that are all most 100% behind the problem are wwb and federal champion. Both are bottom grade ammo. Allways have atleast one premuim grade of ammo to try befor assuming it the handgun. We all know assumming does to us all.
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Old February 20, 2013, 01:45 PM   #10
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Old February 20, 2013, 02:09 PM   #11
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I never heard great things about them, but this is 2nd and 3rd hand information so take it with a grain of salt.
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Old February 20, 2013, 03:46 PM   #12
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buddah4snow The sdseries is a solid handgun with way less problems than the more costly M&P line. Only down time for some is trigger pull weight and with a low cost APEX trigger spring kit its much improved. Can't do better for 300dollars. Oh for those trigger whinners BUY a sig with a da trigger. Triggers are no better.


william if you pay attention to failure to fire treads the two brands that are all most 100% behind the problem are wwb and federal champion. Both are bottom grade ammo. Allways have atleast one premuim grade of ammo to try befor assuming it the handgun. We all know assumming does to us all.
Wait, the SD series does not have "less problems" than the M&P.

Don't get me wrong, OP. the SD-series are solid entry level guns, but they're not at the level of the M&P/Glock/Sig/Beretta. They aren't service-quality.
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Old February 20, 2013, 03:49 PM   #13
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My buddy has one. Decent, very reliable gun. I shot it very well and found it very accurate.

Terrible trigger though, long, gritty and sponge like. If you can deal with the trigger, it is a decent gun.
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Old February 20, 2013, 04:24 PM   #14
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I've not dealt with the SD series yet. I have an SW9VE... I've heard the SD trigger is a bit better out of the box but still not great. I put the Apex springs in mine- they helped, but the trigger pull is still pretty poor. Crisp and consistent, yes. It's also still very heavy and difficult to handle easily.

As for the sights, I don't know if anybody makes adjustable sights for the things... I put night sights on mine and I probably wouldn't recommend that somebody do that. It just didn't really do much for the gun.

It's a decent and reliable firearm, it's even reasonably accurate. But it is also inferior to the guns that don't cost all that much more.
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Old February 20, 2013, 07:34 PM   #15
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Actually it was 100% gun related. The ammo was fine. The slide was machined uneven and it was causing the malfunctions.
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Old February 21, 2013, 11:41 AM   #16
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here's a guy trying to get rid of the sd's predecessor. notice how's he's looking for any offer or anything at all in trade for it?

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517153
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Old February 21, 2013, 11:51 AM   #17
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^Yes, you can feel the unhappiness through his sell post.

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two brands that are all most 100% behind the problem are wwb and federal champion. Both are bottom grade ammo. Allways have atleast one premuim grade of ammo to try befor assuming it the handgun. We all know assumming does to us all.
I have to respectfully disagree. Yes they are range ammo, but most quality (and even some not-so-quality) should have ZERO problem with range ammo. I can only imagine a gun that only shoots premium ammo. Yikes.
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Old February 21, 2013, 12:12 PM   #18
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I have to respectfully disagree. Yes they are range ammo, but most quality (and even some not-so-quality) should have ZERO problem with range ammo. I can only imagine a gun that only shoots premium ammo. Yikes.
I agree with this. Of the 4,000+ my Beretta PX4 has put down range over the past 4.5 years, I'd say at least half has been Federal Champion and at least a quarter Winchester White Box. Never a problem. Ditto the 1,500 or so my LCP has fired.

While I don't doubt the occasional quality control slip, as they are budget ammo, if a gun can't eat them I generally think the gun is crap. If my $300 LCP and $450 PX4 can eat them, other guns ought to be able to.

Heck, to go even further with it, I shot an absolutely filthy SR22 at a rental range. 400 rounds of the most sketchy, bargain basement .22LR I have ever seen. Zero issues.

An occasional bad load from range ammo? Sure. Consistent issues? It's the gun. A good gun can be fed cheap ammo.
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Old February 22, 2013, 07:21 AM   #19
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Love my SD9 VE. Over 500 rounds without a hitch!
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Old February 22, 2013, 11:56 PM   #20
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Great gun, good feel, nice weight, high capacity, awesomely accurate, high capacity but hard trigger. You can adjust to it very well though and best warranty in the business.
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Old February 23, 2013, 08:36 PM   #21
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I am glad you seem to enjoy the SD but I must say a warranty should only be needed as a just in case. Most people would like the gun they choose to be reliable and certainly do not want to wait for up to 6 weeks if they do need to use the warranty service. As far as the best warranty as you stated, hi-point has the same but people don't like the reliability in a hi-point and they don't like sending them back for repair. This is how I feel about the SD, why should I own it if every time it is used it has to go back and then you wait for 6 weeks and then it starts the process again, shoot it then ship it.
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Old February 23, 2013, 08:48 PM   #22
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As far as warranty goes, any gun out there may or may not need warranty. I once had to send a gun back to S&W. the overnited me a box with a shipping label. I put gun and note in box and overnited gun to them. They called the next day and said they got gun and went over the problem. Called in about two days later and said gun will be overnited to me next day. It was delivered. No cost to me and then worked flawless from then on. Love their guns and their service. Ps- I wouldn't own a high point!
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