Springfield Armory XDS vs. Kahr PM45

Oldjarhead · February 15, 2013, 06:00 PM

Has anyone had an opportunity to shoot the Kahr PM45 and the Springfield Armory XDS. 45acp? I'd like to know, which one you liked based on triggers,accuracy,feel and comfort. Reliability too. Thanks.

jason_iowa · February 15, 2013, 07:25 PM

I like the springfield. I don't own one yet but when things calm down I plan on picking one up not sure which model ill get but i'm leaning towards the xdm.

I hear great things about the Khar too. I think you would be fine with either one. Springfield is probably cheaper too. I have not priced the Khar.

kahrguy · February 15, 2013, 07:45 PM

another shooter compairing the xds to the wrong kahr. The CW45 or P45 are closer to the size of the xds45 but still a lighter handgun with a full grip for most. Price of the CW45 is less than 400 dollars or the P45 is closer to 565 at a reasonable LGS.

Rmart30 · February 15, 2013, 09:04 PM

I havent shot one of the Kahrs but I can say I really like my XDS. Easy to carry and less recoil than my PF9.

tahunua001 · February 15, 2013, 09:12 PM

I would never take a Kahr over a XD of any type. with all of the horror stories that I have heard and witnessed first hand I would never buy a kahr. springfield turns out very few lemons and those that do have problems have a lifetime warranty.

gregdry · February 15, 2013, 09:43 PM

My choice would be the XDS. I have not shot the Kahr PM45, but I have the PM40. I also have a new XDS (in fact, just got back from shooting it a while ago; have shot around 80 so far without a hitch!). IMHO, Springfield is better choice; here's why: Springfield has case with many extras, 2 mags, fiber optic front sight, only 1" wide; great reputation; works out of the box, is less expensive... Kahr costs more, asks for 200 rd. break-in (that alone is expensive!). I think Springfield is the better weapon, just sayin...

varoadking · February 15, 2013, 09:57 PM

The PM45 is a wonderful handgun...as are all Kahrs...

BrthrB · February 16, 2013, 09:47 PM

Both are fine guns! I have shot both and each shoots well. The PM45 is slightly smaller. The XDs has the capability of a 7 round magazine (with a slip on grip adapter). XDs also comes with a holster and magazine holder while my Kahr did not.

PM45 is my off-duty carry gun. It has been outstanding from the start. The XDs has also been flawless!

Handle both to see which fits you best. Their feel and trigger pull(s) are different as well as their ergonomics!

dean1818 · February 17, 2013, 07:16 AM

The kahr has a very long trigger pull and a long reset

The XDS has a much crisper and shorter trigger pull and reset

I absolutely hate the exposed slide stop spring on the Kahr..... To me its a poor design

I also do not like the "load with slide stop" rule of the kahr.

I shoot a friends XDS better than I did the kahrs I have owned in the past

Both are great pistols, but the XDS is a better weapon, in my humble opinion

Wally21 · February 17, 2013, 11:19 PM

I own a Springfield XD-45 and I absolutely love it. It is very comfortable to hold and I like how the safety is not only on the trigger but the back of the grip. I've never had a problem with it. I also got my friend to look at purchasing one instead of a Glock.

I've never shot a Kahr PM45 so I couldn't tell you anything about that.

stolivar · February 17, 2013, 11:32 PM

The Kahr is brutal. Not comfortable to shoot at all. I love the the XD's

Enough said.

I own the xd not the Kahr...

steve

farmboy · February 17, 2013, 11:56 PM

I've shot both, own the Kahr CW45.

Per your request:
Trigger- different from each other, but both OK for what they are. If you're used to shooting an auto, the Springfield will feel best. If you've been shooting revolvers, the Kahr.

Accuracy-Both good. Better than 99% of us can actually shoot, I'm betting.

Feel- Completely subjective. I own the Kahr because it "felt" best to me. If a gun feels right, you can work around everything else.

Comfort- Compared to a warm bowl of soup on a cold day, no, neither. Touching off a round from a polymer framed .45 is not what I call "comfortable". Fun, maybe, but not comfortable.

Reliability- Again, a draw. But in this modern age of computerized design and manufacturing, find a real lemon of any brand is getting more and more rare.

So, what it boils down to is........you. And you know deep down which one you want, so go get it already.

February 15, 2013, 06:00 PM	#1
Oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2008 Posts: 417	Springfield Armory XDS vs. Kahr PM45 Has anyone had an opportunity to shoot the Kahr PM45 and the Springfield Armory XDS. 45acp? I'd like to know, which one you liked based on triggers,accuracy,feel and comfort. Reliability too. Thanks.

February 15, 2013, 07:45 PM	#3
kahrguy Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2012 Posts: 404	another shooter compairing the xds to the wrong kahr. The CW45 or P45 are closer to the size of the xds45 but still a lighter handgun with a full grip for most. Price of the CW45 is less than 400 dollars or the P45 is closer to 565 at a reasonable LGS. Last edited by kahrguy; February 16, 2013 at 03:10 PM.

February 15, 2013, 09:04 PM	#4
Rmart30 Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2008 Posts: 374	I havent shot one of the Kahrs but I can say I really like my XDS. Easy to carry and less recoil than my PF9. __________________ Jetguns.com When you want better service from a online gun seller and someplace that actually will talk to you on the phone unlike "Duds" gun shop, try them. http://www.gunbanobama.com <---MUST READ

February 15, 2013, 09:12 PM	#5
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 3,774	I would never take a Kahr over a XD of any type. with all of the horror stories that I have heard and witnessed first hand I would never buy a kahr. springfield turns out very few lemons and those that do have problems have a lifetime warranty. __________________ all guns lost in a tragic smelting accident. I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.

February 16, 2013, 09:47 PM	#8
BrthrB Member Join Date: February 14, 2006 Location: Western Wisconsin Posts: 40	Both are fine guns! I have shot both and each shoots well. The PM45 is slightly smaller. The XDs has the capability of a 7 round magazine (with a slip on grip adapter). XDs also comes with a holster and magazine holder while my Kahr did not. PM45 is my off-duty carry gun. It has been outstanding from the start. The XDs has also been flawless! Handle both to see which fits you best. Their feel and trigger pull(s) are different as well as their ergonomics! __________________ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing!

February 15, 2013, 07:25 PM	#2
jason_iowa Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 569	I like the springfield. I don't own one yet but when things calm down I plan on picking one up not sure which model ill get but i'm leaning towards the xdm. I hear great things about the Khar too. I think you would be fine with either one. Springfield is probably cheaper too. I have not priced the Khar.

February 15, 2013, 09:43 PM	#6
gregdry Member Join Date: June 11, 2008 Posts: 40	My choice would be the XDS. I have not shot the Kahr PM45, but I have the PM40. I also have a new XDS (in fact, just got back from shooting it a while ago; have shot around 80 so far without a hitch!). IMHO, Springfield is better choice; here's why: Springfield has case with many extras, 2 mags, fiber optic front sight, only 1" wide; great reputation; works out of the box, is less expensive... Kahr costs more, asks for 200 rd. break-in (that alone is expensive!). I think Springfield is the better weapon, just sayin...

February 15, 2013, 09:57 PM	#7
varoadking Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2004 Location: Dixie Posts: 2,299	The PM45 is a wonderful handgun...as are all Kahrs...

February 17, 2013, 07:16 AM	#9
dean1818 Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Frisco Texas Posts: 449	The kahr has a very long trigger pull and a long reset The XDS has a much crisper and shorter trigger pull and reset I absolutely hate the exposed slide stop spring on the Kahr..... To me its a poor design I also do not like the "load with slide stop" rule of the kahr. I shoot a friends XDS better than I did the kahrs I have owned in the past Both are great pistols, but the XDS is a better weapon, in my humble opinion __________________ An imperfect servant of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus Buying American made, wherever I still can

February 17, 2013, 11:19 PM	#10
Wally21 Junior Member Join Date: February 16, 2013 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 10	I own a Springfield XD-45 and I absolutely love it. It is very comfortable to hold and I like how the safety is not only on the trigger but the back of the grip. I've never had a problem with it. I also got my friend to look at purchasing one instead of a Glock. I've never shot a Kahr PM45 so I couldn't tell you anything about that.

February 17, 2013, 11:32 PM	#11
stolivar Senior Member Join Date: September 24, 2004 Posts: 309	I have shot both The Kahr is brutal. Not comfortable to shoot at all. I love the the XD's Enough said. I own the xd not the Kahr... steve

February 17, 2013, 11:56 PM	#12
farmboy Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 167	I've shot both, own the Kahr CW45. Per your request: Trigger- different from each other, but both OK for what they are. If you're used to shooting an auto, the Springfield will feel best. If you've been shooting revolvers, the Kahr. Accuracy-Both good. Better than 99% of us can actually shoot, I'm betting. Feel- Completely subjective. I own the Kahr because it "felt" best to me. If a gun feels right, you can work around everything else. Comfort- Compared to a warm bowl of soup on a cold day, no, neither. Touching off a round from a polymer framed .45 is not what I call "comfortable". Fun, maybe, but not comfortable. Reliability- Again, a draw. But in this modern age of computerized design and manufacturing, find a real lemon of any brand is getting more and more rare. So, what it boils down to is........you. And you know deep down which one you want, so go get it already.