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Old February 12, 2013, 01:46 AM   #1
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Opinion needed on CZ mousegun

Hi have an opportunity to buy two CZ-45, DOA .25ACP's. One is used and the other is like new and they look like great little guns.

I intend carrying the used one but don't know much about the pistol. I looked on the CZ forums but can't find much info.

Have any of you had experience with the gun?

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Old February 12, 2013, 04:32 AM   #2
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Hmmm,

I don't know anything about them, but i know a few CZ buffs on another forum i use, and I will see if they know anything.


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Old February 12, 2013, 07:48 AM   #3
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Thanks Jimmy...I'd appreciate that.
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Old February 12, 2013, 02:23 PM   #4
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Suggest you look at the following site:

http://www.vestpockets.bauli.at/

I have found it very useful at times.

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Old February 12, 2013, 03:53 PM   #5
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The one I saw seemed to be a well made gun. If you're interested in it as a collector's piece -- or for fun at the range, get it.

But if you're thinking about really using it as a pocket gun, I'd go for something more potent than the .25 acp (which is hard to find and expensive.)

A number of small .32 or .380 are probably available for similar (or lower) price and would serve you better as a self-protection weapon, be easier and cheaper to feed, and much easier and find parts for, if it ever broke.
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Old February 12, 2013, 04:32 PM   #6
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They are excellent little guns. They were the basic inspiration for the Seecamp pocket guns. D/A only. Rare little jewels.
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Old February 13, 2013, 01:45 AM   #7
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Thanks for your replies Will, Walt and Bill. I like the idea of a thin DAO mouse gun for wear during the day. My work attire does allow for much else if I'm going to keep it completely concealed.

I've seen there was a book called Know your Czechoslovakian Pistols but it's out of print. Has anyone come across this book?
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Old February 13, 2013, 02:05 AM   #8
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A Keltec P32 will conceal better.
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Old February 13, 2013, 03:45 AM   #9
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Hi Bill...you're right but I'm not living in the US and Keltec supply has been erratic. I have a couple of Beretta 950's, which are also great.
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Old February 13, 2013, 02:29 PM   #10
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Being a CZ fan, I'd love to have one of those.
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Old February 13, 2013, 03:53 PM   #11
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Unfortunately i don't think too many entered the US. I assume it was because of the restriction on guns from the Eastern block at the time.
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Old February 14, 2013, 12:05 PM   #12
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Shot one today and it handles beautifully. Has a gutter site so it's a real close range gun. DAO and a magazine disconnect make it one of the safest pocket pistols I have handled.
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Old February 15, 2013, 01:23 AM   #13
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Glad you're enjoying it. Most of the folks I asked on my other forum spoke highly of it, not really as a CC piece, but def as a collection piece.
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Old February 15, 2013, 02:57 AM   #14
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The gun is very thing, which is good but at around 14oz's it's rather heavy for a .25 pocket gun.
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Old February 15, 2013, 03:24 AM   #15
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True. CZ's have traditionally been heavy steel guns. Great for heavier calibers, but a little much for smaller calibers like that .25
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Old February 15, 2013, 10:14 AM   #16
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On the other hand, the heavier steel gun makes recoil a non-issue.

I'd be more concerned by the lack of "oomph" from the .25 acp round -- there's not a lot of "there" there. Better than a pointed stick, however.
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Old February 15, 2013, 04:34 PM   #17
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Have several CZ's in my C & R collection and they all shoot accurate and flawlessly. Can't say much bad about them. As a group they are my favorite shooters--excellent quality, easy-to-find parts, easy disassembly; and I rarely pass up a chance to buy an older CZ. Just got the CZ-50 in 9mm that certainly would be very acceptable for concealed carry. For smaller calibers, the CZ 27 is nice as well. Just well made guns all around
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Old February 15, 2013, 05:29 PM   #18
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Just got the CZ-50 in 9mm...
You must mean the CZ-82, not the CZ-50. (I make that type of "slip" from time to time...)

I've seen CZ-52s with an after-market 9mm barrel, but that gun is much too large for easy concealed carry.

The CZ-50s and CZ-70s are all blowback design guns in .32 acp, and would be more than a handful in 9mm (9x19 or 9x18).

The CZ-82, on the other hand, was first issued in 9x18 (9mm Makarov), and it's a very sophisticated gun, and a real competitor for the Makarov. To big for a pocket gun, but a good concealed carry with an IWB holster.

(CZ just recently discontinued a civilian version of that model, the CZ-83.)
Did you mean CZ-82, by any chance?
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