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Old February 10, 2013, 10:27 PM   #1
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M&P 45 Pickle

Howdy all,

I was field-stripping this M&P 45 just a few minutes ago, and when I went to go put it together, the guide assembly got jammed. The guide rod assembly is a little loose when you put it together with the barrel and slide, so I think it slipped when I turned the assembled slide back over to put the pistol back together.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old February 11, 2013, 12:25 AM   #2
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Fellas, 147 views and nobody has anything?

I figured at least someone would give me the "have a gunsmith look at it" line...
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Old February 11, 2013, 12:44 AM   #3
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I'm not familiar with the take down of the M&P series gun but it sounds like something similar happened to me. I had to jiggle the slide and put a pit of muscle into it but I eventually got the take down lever out. My gun didn't have any functional issues afterwards but I still checked all points of contact just to make sure.
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Old February 11, 2013, 02:29 AM   #4
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There might be a YouTube video on the subject. I've found it to be a good resource on technical issues.
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Old February 11, 2013, 07:25 AM   #5
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I have 2 m&ps and have never seen that

Can you pull back or push forwrd on the slide?

Is there an obstruction pushing the barrel forward?

Is it loaded? Is the obstruction a bullet?



I cant even make my gun do this.

I see that the slide release lever is down. point the pistol to a carpet
(your slide is under tension) and If unloaded pull the trigger. (try to grip the top of the slide to keep it from flying)

If that alone doesnt work, lightly tap the back of the reciever with a soft mallet with trigger pulled.

Of course do this at your own risk.

A smith would be the best solution
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Old February 11, 2013, 08:13 AM   #6
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Grab the end of the guide rod with a pair of pliers and give it a tug. See if that helps to seat it.
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Old February 11, 2013, 11:28 AM   #7
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There might be a YouTube video on the subject. I've found it to be a good resource on technical issues.
Yeah, looks like nobody else has had this problem with their M&P.

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Can you pull back or push forwrd on the slide?
Yes, it'll move back a little.

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Is there an obstruction pushing the barrel forward?

Is it loaded? Is the obstruction a bullet?
No obstructions, and it's not loaded.

It's the guide rod assembly- it fits so loosely that when I went to put it back together, the guide rod assembly fell out of it's 1/2 moon cutout on the barrel, and now it's jammed somewhere between there and the frame.

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If unloaded pull the trigger
Can't pull the trigger, either.

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If that alone doesnt work, lightly tap the back of the reciever with a soft mallet with trigger pulled.
I tried that, and it's totally stuck.

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Grab the end of the guide rod with a pair of pliers and give it a tug. See if that helps to seat it.
Tried that, too. Nothin.

Looks like I might just have to keep toying with it, and if after a week or so of gentle manipulation, I can't get it free, I'll take it to a smithy.
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Old February 11, 2013, 11:44 AM   #8
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...if after a week or so of gentle manipulation, I can't get it free, I'll take it to a smithy.
Call S&W customer service. They should send you a shipping label and fix it for free. In most cases, their turnaround time is less than 2 weeks.
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Old February 11, 2013, 01:57 PM   #9
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I finally got it. I had to pull the trigger, with just the right amount of pressure, and ease the slide forward. Finesse went a long way in this case.

The guide rod still seems to be a bit loose, and I fear if I don't take extreme care every time I put it back together now- it'll do it again.

Weird that S&W would put a loose fitting part like that in a gun. The trigger sucks, too. Seems to be a pretty common issue with the new M&P's. I guess they got a new QC guy that likes to drink on the job or something
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Old February 11, 2013, 02:02 PM   #10
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I simply viewed it to see what kind of cucumbers and ingredients were used in the preparation of M&P 45 pickles.
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Old February 11, 2013, 02:03 PM   #11
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haha! they're a bit oily, some metal taste in there, but they pack a heck of a punch!
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Old February 11, 2013, 07:24 PM   #12
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It should go back to Smith, if you still worry.

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Old February 11, 2013, 07:26 PM   #13
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It should go back to Smith, if you still worry.
Yeah, and I could have them fiddle with the trigger as well. Feels like it was assembled with 50 grit sandpaper
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Old February 22, 2013, 04:01 AM   #14
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I didn't realize that gun came in Pickle. I'm mean I've seen Stainless but
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Old February 22, 2013, 04:08 AM   #15
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Pretty soon we'll have KDP finish on Pmags. (Kosher Dill Pickle)

Glad you got it! I managed to get a Beretta 96 slide nice and stuck recently. Sure makes you feel like a genius for a while, doesn't it?
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