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Old September 21, 2015, 12:15 PM   #1
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Winchester 94 Lever Action

How much would I expect to pay for a 94 SRC, 20" round barrel chambered in 44-40 or 30 WCF(30-30)? I have just started doing research on these guns and it looks like I should aim for one manufactured between 1940-1964.
I grew up in the New Haven, CT. Area and my Grandmother worked the night shift at Winchester's during WWI putting cartridges in magazines.
I want to use rifle for target shooting, not collecting.

Also I am new to this forum and need directions on how to find my questions and the answers/comments.
Thanks, I am learning lots! Guido

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Old September 21, 2015, 12:35 PM   #2
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Hi. Net search 'Pre-64 Winchester M94'. Hordes of 'em on Gun Broker and other auction sites. http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx...ster+94+pre+64
No such thing as a .44-40 M94 though. http://winchestercollector.org/models/model-1894/
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Old September 21, 2015, 12:46 PM   #3
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Check out Gunbrokerand Guns America. Lots listed.
GunsAmerica listings are a bit easier to scan. Both reliable sites.
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Old September 21, 2015, 02:39 PM   #4
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Winchester 94

A friend has a Winchester lever action chambered in 44-40. I thought it was a 94, but I learned recently that there were no 94's made in 44-40. I wonder what year model it could be?
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Old September 21, 2015, 03:13 PM   #5
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Probably a Winchester Model 1873. Original ones are rather pricey. There are new ones available with the Winchester name that are produced by Miroku in Japan. Very nice guns, excellent quality, smooth actions, accurate and good looking.

I have one with an octagon barrel and case hardened reciever in .357/.38 that I really like. A great gun to shoot.

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Old September 21, 2015, 04:19 PM   #6
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The gun that look almost exactly like a model 94, but is chambered in the short pistol calibers (.44-40, etc.) is the Model 92.

Very popular in Western movies, particularly in those made before the current trend of using period correct firearms in films.

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Old September 21, 2015, 05:02 PM   #7
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A model 92 is going to be more rare and expensive. Pre-64 94's vary quite a bit in price. The changes to the 94 in 1964 were not as dramatic as the changes to the model 70 and were more gradual. Many of the 94's made in the mid 60's are still pretty decent guns. In the late 70's Winchester was bought out by investors and the 1980's and 90's guns are pretty decent too, especially those made prior to the safety which was added in the late 80's or early 90's. By about 2000 quality dipped somewhat.
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Old September 21, 2015, 06:20 PM   #8
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I've seen a '70s Model 94 that was a bit rough looking sell at a pawn shop two years ago for $100. It was a bit rough looking but the bore and action was good. Search around and you'll find good deals
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Old September 21, 2015, 06:49 PM   #9
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There were no original (pre-1964) Model 94's made for .44-40, but in recent years, roughly post-1990, several variations of the 94 have been made in that caliber, as well as other calibers (.357 Magnum, .44 Special, .45 Colt) that were never offered in the original guns.

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Old September 22, 2015, 07:10 AM   #10
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I disagree with your choice of the model 94. In my opinion, the VERY BEST 94's were built between 1980 to 2005. These are the superior angle eject models with scope mounting in mind. During these years, powerful cartridges were introduced including the 307, 356, 375, and others.

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Old September 22, 2015, 10:38 AM   #11
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I disagree with your choice of the model 94. In my opinion, the VERY BEST 94's were built between 1980 to 2005. These are the superior angle eject models with scope mounting in mind. During these years, powerful cartridges were introduced including the 307, 356, 375, and others.
They made some design improvements during those years and quality is better than the first post-64 94s, but the pre-64s were better made from better materials than anything afterwards.
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Old September 23, 2015, 10:04 PM   #12
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Big Bore model 94 XTR's are my personal favorites. Those beefed up receivers aren't just for looks.
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Old September 26, 2015, 09:58 PM   #13
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They only experiences I had with the angle eject 94 rifles was less than stellar. Accuracy was terrible.
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Old September 27, 2015, 11:06 AM   #14
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My .30-30 1894 Carbine was made in 1914. The old caballero my Dad bought it from in Monterrey, Mexico 50 years ago claimed to have carried it in the Mexican Revolucion. It has no finish remaining - just patina - but has the saddle ring (discontinued before WWII), curved steel butt plate, a tight smooth action & very good bore:


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Old September 28, 2015, 08:57 AM   #15
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They happen to be very accurate rifles too!

I like Jack O'Connors response, I have one of the angle eject rifles in .307, not as much velocity as the .308 but more than sufficient energy to take down the largest deer which is what it was designed for. The are well made and good looking, mine was one of the later rifles with the straight comb stock that looks more traditional. At the time I purchased my rifle I thought they were pretty pricey, I hope whomever receives the rifle will appreciate it like I have.. William
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Old September 28, 2015, 10:00 AM   #16
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If any Post-64 94 Winchester models were better made or more popular than those models made Prior to 1964. They would have a higher collectors value. They don't, they still aren't, and quite possibly never will be. And that's my two/cents on this Winchester subject.
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Old September 28, 2015, 11:22 AM   #17
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That is easier to digest if you owned one. Side by side comparison, that dog won't hunt. Popularity is what it is. The last made Winnies have strength for loads that will scatter the oldies, Marlins included. Think big bore.
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Old September 28, 2015, 01:53 PM   #18
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Rarity causes items to have value that is totally independent of quality.
Why are diamonds valuable? They are just rocks.
Same is true of old firearms. They are valuable because there is a finite supply of them and a fluctuating demand. Supply decreases (they finally make their way into the hands of the I never sell anything collector) so price goes up.
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Old November 4, 2015, 01:47 AM   #19
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help, i got a 1939 model 94, it is very good condition, but there is a stamp on the underside between the trigger and lever. the stamp is EM only the E is reversed, it looks like factory stamping, has anyone ever seen or heard about this type of marking?
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Old November 4, 2015, 09:46 AM   #20
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The old 30WCF(30-30) Has probably killed more deer,elk,moose,caribou,bear, etc.etc. than anything "invented" after it.

Granted the ethical range is limited but a shot within the effective range and placed where it's supposed to be will, and has, killed as effectively as anything that has come since.

At longer ranges it is most certainly not the cartridge, or rifle for that matter, to do the job effectively or ethically…..

All of the "big bores" in the same 20" carbine are equally effective, within range, but in no way superior given the same proper shot placement.
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Old November 4, 2015, 11:12 AM   #21
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USRAC 94's were some very well made rifles, I use to have a 307 and a 356. If I remember correctly they went back to a forged receiver also. I also had a pre 64 that had the sights canted to one side, as with any gun they are all not going to be perfect.
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Old November 4, 2015, 11:38 AM   #22
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I have a 1994 USRAC & a 1951 Winchester.
No way you can convince me the later US-made 94s were "better" than the older ones.
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Old November 4, 2015, 12:30 PM   #23
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Won't even try Denis!
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Old November 4, 2015, 11:45 PM   #24
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You can get a 94 in 44 Magnum...

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Old November 5, 2015, 03:55 PM   #25
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You can get a 94 in 44 Magnum...

Yes but the 94 was designed for a rifle cartridge and a lot of them have problems feeding pistol length cartridges.
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