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Old January 29, 2013, 03:24 PM   #1
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Smith & Wesson Model 10 Snub Nose

I have had a Smith & Wesson Model 10 snub nose for many years. It is stamped Smith & Wesson on the left side of barrel, and .38 S.&W. SPL on the right side. It has the official S & W logo below the cylinder release on the left side and is marked on the right front Made In USA, Springfield, Mass. The S/N is on the butt and is 451227. I would like to obtain an owner's manual for the gun, as well as, know the date of manufacture. Also, current market value would be appreciated (conditon 8 out of 10). Can anyone help?
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Old January 29, 2013, 03:55 PM   #2
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Does the serial number have an alphabetical prefix, and is the gun actually stamped "MOD 10-x" (where "x" is a single-digit number) inside the cylinder yoke cut?

If the gun is marked with the model number, it should have a "C" or "D" prefix before the 6-digit number; this prefix is considered part of the serial and is essential to correctly verifying the age. No-prefix, V-prefix, S-prefix, and low C-prefix guns should not be model number stamped. (FWIW V-prefix guns may have the "V" on the opposite side of the lanyard loop hole or lanyard loop plug.)

Are you looking for a period-correct manual or simply ANY manual? The "Revolvers - Modern Style" PDF manual on the S&W website is adequate if you don't care about the manual's provenance.

Re: value, please post pictures- it's hard to accurately judge condition based on a description, and these guns often have modifications or refinishing that affects the collector value.
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Old January 29, 2013, 03:57 PM   #3
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http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore...01-30-2011.pdf

An 80% gun is not going to have great value. But if you find someone that just really really wants a snubbie you might get $400. Otherwise $250 or less.
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Old January 30, 2013, 03:06 AM   #4
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In my area the 80% model will probably be $400 for a 2" Snub. In very clean condition more like $450 to $500 Retail.
In my area Model 10 and 15 Snubs are not on the shelf very often.

I put $600 in a very likely unfired 15 Snub a while back with no box or papers. That was probably too much money for it, however how often do you come across a new 15 Snub that is 30+ years old.

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Old January 30, 2013, 10:04 AM   #5
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They are going for $325 to $350 in my neck of the woods. But they do not seem to be moving at my local gun/pawn establishment.
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Old January 30, 2013, 10:54 AM   #6
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How about a picture?

I don't have my guides in front of me right now, but a snub in that serial number range would make it a pretty early snub.
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Old January 30, 2013, 11:14 AM   #7
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^^^ Mike: those are my thoughts exactly.

A no-prefix or V-prefix snubbie could be a legitimately rare and valuable gun IF it hasn't been refinished and/or poorly modified... and that's a big IF.

A C-prefix gun could still be an uncommon and interesting variant if it has a mix of earlier and later features, which is frequent in the low-to-mid C-series range, but value is not likely to be particularly high.

A D-prefix gun is nothing special, although they will usually sell for a slight premium over equal 4"-5"-6" guns in areas where CCW is popular.
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Old January 30, 2013, 11:42 AM   #8
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I'm just wondering if it has a barrel lug for the ejector rod...
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Old January 30, 2013, 01:52 PM   #9
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I'm just wondering if it has a barrel lug for the ejector rod...
Ditto, but the OP's statement that the barrel rollmark reads .38 S&W SPL.- rather than .38 S&W SPECIAL CTG. or .38 S&W CTG.- suggests that the barrel is 2" original factory length.

Of course, all we can do is assume, considering that the OP hasn't checked back in yet...
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Old January 30, 2013, 04:07 PM   #10
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"Ditto, but the OP's statement that the barrel rollmark reads .38 S&W SPL."

That's actually a problem, I think.

Original Model of 1905 Fourth Change snubs should have the barrel marked ".38 Special CTG" on the right as the pre-war marking.

A 400K range serial number would put it in the early 1920, I would think.
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Old February 3, 2013, 04:14 PM   #11
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Feeling Stupid About Questions On S&W Model 10!

All your posts were fantastic. I'm not a gun novice but certainly not an expert like you fellows. I had identified my S&W .38 SPL as a Model 10 by matching it to a picture. I assumed the Model would be on the exterior of the gun, but after reading your posts I popped open the cylinder and gazamm, there is was...Mod 36. The cylinder support was stamped with the number 69982. When I looked it up, it was referred to as a "square butt" .38 SPL.
The number 451227, which I gave in my original post, was stamped on this square butt. After examining the number with a magnifying glass, it's possible there is a dash between the 5 & 1 (45-1227). Talking about butt's, I kind of feel like one now. So with this new and correct Model number and additional 6 numbers, I still have the same requests. I would like to have a manual for this gun and the date of manufacture. I apologize for causing all the trouble and will try and be more thorough in the future. Thank you all very much for you good info on bad information.
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Old February 3, 2013, 04:42 PM   #12
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If it reads Mod 36 it is not a Model 10, it is a early J frame , Model 36, Chiefs Special. Should have 5 holes in the cylinder, Your serial number dates it to 1963-1969, I would guess 1964 or 1965. The number on the cylinder support is a assembly number and means nothing outside the factory. If you go to the S&W site, I believe you can get a manual, or Google Steves Pages and download one.
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Old February 4, 2013, 12:14 PM   #13
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Thanks to RJAY

Ron,
Thank you so much for the information you provided. Sorry for my mixup between Model 10 and Model 36. I was able to download and print the 4-page manual from Steves, and I will consider the manufacture date to be either 1964 or 1965. Your help was invaluable.
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