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Old February 2, 2013, 11:05 AM   #1
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Sig P220 Normal Wear?

Hello all, first post so please bear with me. I traded for a used Sig P220. From the style and proof marks I believe it is a 1986 model. I field stripped it and note the barrel has wear patterns and the slide is worn on on both sides near the back end. Interestingly, the frame rails show absolutely no wear. The serial numbers do match on the barrel, slide and frame. My question is, "Does the wear I'm seeing seem normal for a used 1986 Sig P220?"
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Old February 2, 2013, 11:29 AM   #2
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Nice P220 you got there and congrats.

Looks to me like like it is barely broken in.

Shoot it often as you can afford and you will love it. Just be sure to keep the frame rails well lubed and a light coat of lube on the barrel exterior in addition to other recommended lube points. I would however change the recoil spring sometime in the near future since it is used. Recoil spring should be ideally changed every 3000 - 5000 rounds.

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Old February 2, 2013, 11:37 AM   #3
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Nice catch. I don't see anything that looks abnormal. Just go shoot it.

My Sigs seem to run better with a light coat of white grease on the rails.

If I am shooting a lot on a particular day, I might lock the slide back and put a couple of drops of Rem oil along the rails. Otherwise I field strip after the session and re-grease the rails.

You really do have a great gun and you will like it a lot.
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Old February 3, 2013, 07:42 AM   #4
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Looks like less wear than my 2 year old P220. It's in flawless shape.
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Old February 3, 2013, 08:03 AM   #5
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I love my P220 and I also love yours.


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Old February 3, 2013, 09:32 AM   #6
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Lube properly .... http://www.apextactical.com/blog/ind...-pistol-rails/ shoot and enjoy!
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Old February 3, 2013, 09:41 AM   #7
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That's all normal wear.

SIG handguns have to been well lubed. I used Tetra Gun Lube.
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Old February 3, 2013, 11:01 AM   #8
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Sorry guys. Is this normal wear too? I got it used some month or so ago.

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Old February 3, 2013, 11:37 AM   #9
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Old February 3, 2013, 11:48 AM   #10
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Sorry. The app only allows 3 pics per post and its not even a real pic. It's clickable. Anyways. My SIG is worn a little funny. Left side in the frame rail to the back. And right side in the frame rail to the front.

And on top of the frame rails by the hammer.


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Old February 3, 2013, 11:50 AM   #11
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I picked up a used P220 a couple of years ago of about the same vintage, I believe. I sent it back in to Sig to have all the springs replaced and night sights installed. They were running a special at the time, as I recall it was around 100$. They inspected the pistol and found a crack in the slide, it was replaced at no charge to me. So, I got new springs, night sights and a new slide for around 100$. I looked it up and they now charge 144.95. I figured it was worth it just to have the gun inspected and the night sights installed. It appears the inspection with spring replacement without the night sights is 89$

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Old February 3, 2013, 09:07 PM   #12
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Constantine that is totally normal and looks great as in looks to be normal/low wear. Every classic P series pistol I own shows that shiny metal at exactly the same spots on top of the frame after the first range trip or so and then it does not progress any more. I just keep a light coat of grease there. Same goes for that shiny area on top of the locking insert.

Here is a picture that shows what areas on the topside of my P226 frame that I lube with a light coat of grease and this is in addition the the frame rails of the side, that take the most abuse, and the exterior of the barrel.


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Old February 3, 2013, 11:54 PM   #13
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Thanks sigarms228. Appreciate that. For some reason my P226 e2 has 3k+ and doesn't have that though. Then again. I run my guns that have that much metal in metal, wet.

This P220 I bought second hand.


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Old February 4, 2013, 01:32 AM   #14
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both look beautiful. Ill have to look for some pics of my first one after 100k rounds through it.
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Old February 4, 2013, 06:57 AM   #15
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Those rails in Constantines picture look purple, I dont think thats good. Maybe its just my monitor.
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Old February 4, 2013, 08:06 AM   #16
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They are a little purpleish. What's that mean?


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Old February 4, 2013, 12:26 PM   #17
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Those rails in Constantines picture look purple, I dont think thats good. Maybe its just my monitor.
Not gonna lie..that kind of weirded me out a little bit too. Anyone have the same thing or similar markings? They're different on each side.
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Old February 4, 2013, 12:40 PM   #18
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If indeed yours is an older model sig, some parts have been known to take on a purple hew. But I do not see anything wrong there. Looks about the same wear as a couple of mine have. I just use a little grease on the rails these days. Sig packs TW-25 with all their new pistols. So I guess that is what they recommend. I personally use a little bit of SLIDE GLIDE. Feels like the slide is on ball bearings.
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Old February 4, 2013, 12:51 PM   #19
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They are a little purpleish. What's that mean?
Been in close proximity of a Glock recently?...
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Old February 4, 2013, 01:25 PM   #20
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If indeed yours is an older model sig, some parts have been known to take on a purple hew. But I do not see anything wrong there. Looks about the same wear as a couple of mine have. I just use a little grease on the rails these days. Sig packs TW-25 with all their new pistols. So I guess that is what they recommend. I personally use a little bit of SLIDE GLIDE. Feels like the slide is on ball bearings.
Yeah, it's a little older than some. 2000 was the year of production.
I use the TW-25 they pack in there too. Love that stuff. I keep hearing a lot of good things about slide glide. I think I want some now.

I grease everywhere sigarms228 showed from the start. On my P series SIG's.

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Been in close proximity of a Glock recently?...
Wasn't Glock the culprit of green hues? Not purple.
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Old February 4, 2013, 01:38 PM   #21
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Here is a link to some traditional Glock lube:
http://www.amazon.com/Kool-Aid-Grape.../dp/B001IZHZR2
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Wasn't Glock the culprit of green hues?
Could be...
http://www.amazon.com/Kool-Aid-Lemon.../dp/B001IZM2NY
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Old February 5, 2013, 07:01 AM   #22
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Here is a good artical about sig rails, no mention of purple. http://grayguns.com/guide-to-sig-sau...ol-inspection/
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Old February 5, 2013, 08:13 AM   #23
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Lol @ AZAK. Nice one man!

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That's weird. Doesn't mention the purple at all. now I feel like calling and sending it back. It's weird on the sides too. Front right. Back left. And top right.

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Old February 5, 2013, 12:53 PM   #24
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I called SIG and was asked to send pictures. So I did, and 30 minutes later i got a response.

Jay at SIG customer service says "A dye is introduced into the hard coat during the anodizing process. As the hard coat (and subsequently the dye)wears, a little discoloration can occur. Most of the time it’s the bronze color seen, but sometimes it lightens the dye, so it looks purple. Nothing to worry about."

I'll accept that.

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Old February 5, 2013, 01:43 PM   #25
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The only real thing you need to look for is actual gouging of the slide or slide rails. As the rep stated, some wear of the finish does and will happen. Nothing to really worry about. Now if there were gouge marks, I would be concerned. But all the wear you have is normal to any Sig that I have (all 6 at current count).

Slide glide is great, but does come in 3 formulations to take into account temperature. Right now it does make things a bit slower to cycle in the cold we have. But I did not buy the winter mixture. Small tub that I bought should last me for years to come. You can find it on Brian Enos' web site. It's his product. I only use it on the slide and rail contact points. No need to use it where oil will do it job just fine.
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