The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Art of the Rifle: Semi-automatics

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 30, 2013, 09:23 AM   #1
dieseldirt
Member
 
Join Date: March 19, 2010
Posts: 37
Promag Polymer AK Mags.......

I know these have a bad rep but I got a "good" deal on a few....

They are the "AK-A1" mags for ak47 variants.
I already had one of the Clear ones and the fit and function are flawless in my Bulgarian stamped SSR-85.

I ordered a few of the black ones and they won't even fit in there. Should be the SAME mag right?? I would have to file down or even notch below the front catch (on the mag) so there is clearance for the rear catch to snap in there.
Worried I would take too much off.....

Any tips or tricks are much appreciated.

(Other than getting rid of them)

Last edited by dieseldirt; January 30, 2013 at 09:31 AM.
dieseldirt is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 09:38 AM   #2
plouffedaddy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 13, 2011
Location: Carolina
Posts: 3,269
Looks like you've discovered one reason people (myself included) do not recommend Promag AK mags...

One thing you can do is outline the parts of the mag that are not catching/getting stuck with crayon or chalk and insert. Where the chalk/crayon comes off---grind that off. Then just repeat slowly until they lock up correctly (if they ever will).
__________________
Mrgunsngear's Youtube Channel
Certified Glock Armorer
plouffedaddy is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 10:01 AM   #3
Hairbag
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 22, 2010
Posts: 445
I have 2 new ones and they fit my arsenal and ww like crap. I'm not sure what AK they intended these mags to fit Sure file it down they are still junk with no metal support tab Bulgarian steel mags or bulgarian circle 10 all the way.
__________________
I'm hairbag and I approve this message.
Hairbag is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 11:16 AM   #4
dieseldirt
Member
 
Join Date: March 19, 2010
Posts: 37
Yeah. Seems that it would be better to have a couple of the real thing than a case of junk.

My mistake for assuming that their CLEAR AK Mag and BLACK AK Mag would fit the same rifle.

Maybe they should list them as a "modify to fit" part..........
dieseldirt is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 11:35 AM   #5
Technosavant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO area
Posts: 3,912
IMO, there's no such thing as a good deal on bad magazines. If it says "Pro Mag" on it then it should be assumed to be a bad magazine. They came by their awful reputation honestly.

Better a third as many magazines but have them actually WORK.
Technosavant is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 12:11 PM   #6
Fishbed77
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 23, 2010
Posts: 2,805
Quote:
If it says "Pro Mag" on it then it should be assumed to be a bad magazine. They came by their awful reputation honestly.
It blows my mind how uniformly bad almost every ProMag product is. It's almost as if they intend to make unreliable products (this goes for both their steel and polymer magazines, regardless of host firearm).
Fishbed77 is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 01:11 PM   #7
Technosavant
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 29, 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO area
Posts: 3,912
Quote:
It blows my mind how uniformly bad almost every ProMag product is. It's almost as if they intend to make unreliable products (this goes for both their steel and polymer magazines, regardless of host firearm).
I still laugh about what happened at this past NRA convention. Pro Mag was handing out bags, and I told the guys with me "If their bags are as bad as their magazines, I'd be better off just holding the stuff" and got a different bag from another vendor.

Sure enough, before we left the building the handle of one of my buddies' Pro Mag bags broke. Even their promotional gear is garbage.
Technosavant is offline  
Old January 30, 2013, 01:21 PM   #8
Jimboski
Member
 
Join Date: January 28, 2013
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 32
I recently got a Chinese surplus ak47 mag with factory grease still on it, broke it down, cleaned/oiled took to range, smooth as Chinese silk. No brand on it, not sure if its a Norinco, but it ran like a champ. I had issues with my Tapco ak47 mag, but after cleaned/oiled, ran great too. I could be wrong, but I always clean/oil mags and guns before use, seems to help function.
Jimboski is offline  
Old January 31, 2013, 12:49 AM   #9
flgunguy
Member
 
Join Date: August 14, 2012
Posts: 33
agree 100%. although i've never tried promags in my bulgy slr (i bought two pistol mags for a p229 and took them back the next day and have never bought a pro mag since), i can also say unequivocally that tapco mags are worse than hot garbage.

stick to metal mags or pony up and get the bulgarian ones. i was able to get a shipment in from k-var.
flgunguy is offline  
Old January 31, 2013, 11:35 AM   #10
Jimboski
Member
 
Join Date: January 28, 2013
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 32
Arsenal Mags?

My Tapcos' been pretty reliable, not the best, but not 100% either. What about those Arsenal or not sure what brand off the top of my head, but they are polymer, and among the highest priced I've seen online...they better be good for that price, not sure what brand tho'
Jimboski is offline  
Old January 31, 2013, 01:39 PM   #11
Fishbed77
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 23, 2010
Posts: 2,805
Quote:
i can also say unequivocally that tapco mags are worse than hot garbage.
I've heard the newer Tapco mags aren't half-bad. They are certainly for range use versus serious use, of course.
Fishbed77 is offline  
Old January 31, 2013, 11:17 PM   #12
flgunguy
Member
 
Join Date: August 14, 2012
Posts: 33
Yes, I use the bulgarian mags. They are waffled on the outside. They have 40 rd varieties too. I have a couple of them, but they certainly are not cheap. $40 for the 30 rd, and $50 for the 40 rd.K-var distributes them. You may be able to order directly from arsenal? I've never tried tho...

What I like is that they fit perfectly in my milled slr. the tapco mags, as I noted in my previ post, simply do not fit at all. The rifle is nothing more than a cumbersome paperweight without mags that actually fit. Until I find an after market brand that will work with my rifle, I stick with the bulgarian ones. I have heard of similar issues from saiga and other arsenal rifles.
flgunguy is offline  
Old February 1, 2013, 10:44 AM   #13
Hairbag
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 22, 2010
Posts: 445
I'm not a fan of tapco but they fit my PTR 93 great and work flawless except they dont fit any of my AK's. Pro-mags should just be recycled as egg cartons or something more useful. The arsenal circle tens are worth the $$ most likely last a lifetime unless your going into combat.
__________________
I'm hairbag and I approve this message.
Hairbag is offline  
Old February 1, 2013, 10:54 AM   #14
spacecoast
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 14, 2009
Location: Sunshine and Keystone States
Posts: 4,152
The Tapco mags ($8.33 apiece from SG) work great in my milled Lancaster AK with a minor bit of sanding of the lug that is gripped by the mag release. I have five of them now.
spacecoast is offline  
Old February 1, 2013, 11:09 AM   #15
Sarge
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 12, 2002
Location: MO
Posts: 4,911
My only experience with ProMags has been with steel magazines for the Beretta 92 and the Ruger Mini 14. Both were left loaded continuously for months at a time, and gave perfect function.

Based on user reviews I would be reluctant to buy their polymer AK mags.

I do have a half-dozen 7.62x39 Tapco polymer AK mags in 10, 20 and 30 round configurations. They are basically a good product that may require a little tweaking to perfect them.

They seem to be sized with the largest magazine opening in mind. The sides of several had to be sanded down before they would fit easily in my WASR.

I also noted that they worked great in warm weather, but got a little sluggish in cold weather. So I tore each of them down and sanded material off the sides of the follower, until the follower would drop freely up and down in the magazine by gravity alone. Some were fine & others needed a little sanding. Cleaning out the sanding grit and hosing the internals down with CRC Silicon Spray, completed the process. I have since run them all after being left loaded in the trunk, in 10 degree weather. They are run slick as can be now.

I realize some will grumble about having to work on a new magazine. I gave between 8-11 bucks for these and I don't mind tweaking them a little at that price. I'm sure glad I bought them now.
__________________
I'm inclined to think if a man hasn't gotten his point across in 4912 attempts, 4913 probably isn't going to do it.
Sarge is offline  
Old February 2, 2013, 09:48 PM   #16
dieseldirt
Member
 
Join Date: March 19, 2010
Posts: 37
Thanks for the replies..... I ended up trading them out for some polymer Bulgy mags.
dieseldirt is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.09902 seconds with 9 queries