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oneoldsap · February 6, 2013, 08:56 AM

30-06 = 2800
270 wsm = 2925

The Baron · February 6, 2013, 12:01 PM

30-06 - 2959
270 - 3003

These are just random guesses

kilotanker22 · February 7, 2013, 07:29 PM

Finally got to the range. And chronoed both guns.

The 30-06 was shooting Average of ten rounds at. 2813. The shots in order are. 2807 2817 2817 2817 and 2806. That is a high to low difference of only 11 feet per second. Not sure how to calculate SD.

The 270 wsm five shots in order were. 2940 2952 2966 2949 and 2977. High to low difference of 37 feet per second still would like to know the standard deviation. By the way that was with a 150 grain ballistic tips seated to the lands with 67 grains of magpro.

I will look through the whole thread and I will pm the winner of the bullets I promised.

**Brian Pfleuger** · February 7, 2013, 07:39 PM

I win on the .30-06

I was only off by 1fps. I don't want the bullets though.

I believe OneOldSap would be the overall winner, if I'm not mistaken.

He's off by 13 on the 30-06 and 31 on the 270.

emcon5 · February 7, 2013, 07:42 PM

http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/stand...alculator.html

kilotanker22 · February 7, 2013, 09:11 PM

That is a standard deviation of only 7 feet per second on the 30-06.

oneoldsap · February 7, 2013, 09:17 PM

What do I win ? Does that 30-06 load group at all , you've got a terrific SD there !

kilotanker22 · February 8, 2013, 01:04 AM

You win a box of sierra match king bullets 308 caliber in the 200 grain persuasion. If you want them that is.

And yes that load for the 30-06 groups very well. 3 shot groups hover around half an inch. That is with sierra game kings.

kilotanker22 · February 8, 2013, 01:05 AM

Oh yeah forgot to add that 30-06 is a remi gton 700 adl 400 bucks at wall mart.

**44 AMP** · February 8, 2013, 03:17 AM

too late for me to guess, but I wasn't going to anyway.

What I was going to say is that my experience with chronos and several guns and loads is that the data in the loading manuals is pretty close, and individual guns will show individual differences. I have see as much as 100fps above, and below the published data from different guns, although usually it is much less. Rarely it is spot on, but that, I think is just serendipity.

kilotanker22 · February 8, 2013, 04:23 AM

The factory loads I chronoed were 150 grain power points. They were around 3150

hooligan1 · February 8, 2013, 09:48 AM

Kilotanker.. your original post said 165 grain SST's.. I call miss trial..... You wanted us to pick the velocity for SST's and you tell us now that velocity was with Sierra Gamekings!!???
Debothcery abounds!!!

kilotanker22 · February 8, 2013, 12:08 PM

Hooligan. I also chronod a few SST bullets out of them and the difference was negligable . The standard deviation was bigger for the SST.

oneoldsap · February 8, 2013, 05:22 PM

A prize ? A shooter can't have too many .308 bullets , can he ?

kilotanker22 · February 8, 2013, 08:21 PM

Yes a prize so to speak at the beginning of this thread I offered them to the person who was closest.

Pathfinder45 · February 11, 2013, 09:58 PM

......of shooters with chronographs: Those who have shot their chronographs, .....and those who will!

kilotanker22 · February 11, 2013, 11:56 PM

I like your enthusiasm pathfinder. All I can say is I try to make certain that I shoot through the upper half of the screens. And the forward table is not as tall

February 6, 2013, 08:56 AM	#26
oneoldsap Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2009 Location: I live in the foot of the Green Mountains of Vermont Posts: 1,509	30-06 = 2800 270 wsm = 2925 __________________ Don't forget to have your liberals spayed or neutered !

February 6, 2013, 12:01 PM	#27
The Baron Junior Member Join Date: January 7, 2013 Posts: 13	30-06 - 2959 270 - 3003 These are just random guesses Last edited by The Baron; February 6, 2013 at 12:26 PM.

February 7, 2013, 07:39 PM	#29
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,485	I win on the .30-06 I was only off by 1fps. I don't want the bullets though. I believe OneOldSap would be the overall winner, if I'm not mistaken. He's off by 13 on the 30-06 and 31 on the 270. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

February 7, 2013, 09:11 PM	#31
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	wow That is a standard deviation of only 7 feet per second on the 30-06.

February 7, 2013, 09:17 PM	#32
oneoldsap Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2009 Location: I live in the foot of the Green Mountains of Vermont Posts: 1,509	What do I win ? Does that 30-06 load group at all , you've got a terrific SD there ! __________________ Don't forget to have your liberals spayed or neutered ! Last edited by oneoldsap; February 7, 2013 at 09:20 PM. Reason: Even a blind squirrell finds an acorn once in a while

February 7, 2013, 07:29 PM	#28
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	Finally got to the range. And chronoed both guns. The 30-06 was shooting Average of ten rounds at. 2813. The shots in order are. 2807 2817 2817 2817 and 2806. That is a high to low difference of only 11 feet per second. Not sure how to calculate SD. The 270 wsm five shots in order were. 2940 2952 2966 2949 and 2977. High to low difference of 37 feet per second still would like to know the standard deviation. By the way that was with a 150 grain ballistic tips seated to the lands with 67 grains of magpro. I will look through the whole thread and I will pm the winner of the bullets I promised.

February 7, 2013, 07:42 PM	#30
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 1,294	http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/stand...alculator.html

February 8, 2013, 01:04 AM	#33
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	oneoldsnap You win a box of sierra match king bullets 308 caliber in the 200 grain persuasion. If you want them that is. And yes that load for the 30-06 groups very well. 3 shot groups hover around half an inch. That is with sierra game kings.

February 8, 2013, 01:05 AM	#34
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	Oh yeah forgot to add that 30-06 is a remi gton 700 adl 400 bucks at wall mart.

February 8, 2013, 03:17 AM	#35
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 8,966	too late for me to guess, but I wasn't going to anyway. What I was going to say is that my experience with chronos and several guns and loads is that the data in the loading manuals is pretty close, and individual guns will show individual differences. I have see as much as 100fps above, and below the published data from different guns, although usually it is much less. Rarely it is spot on, but that, I think is just serendipity. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

February 8, 2013, 04:23 AM	#36
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	The factory loads I chronoed were 150 grain power points. They were around 3150

February 8, 2013, 09:48 AM	#37
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 2,835	Kilotanker.. your original post said 165 grain SST's.. I call miss trial..... You wanted us to pick the velocity for SST's and you tell us now that velocity was with Sierra Gamekings!!??? Debothcery abounds!!! __________________ Thanks for coming!

February 8, 2013, 12:08 PM	#38
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	Hooligan. I also chronod a few SST bullets out of them and the difference was negligable . The standard deviation was bigger for the SST.

February 8, 2013, 05:22 PM	#39
oneoldsap Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2009 Location: I live in the foot of the Green Mountains of Vermont Posts: 1,509	A prize ? A shooter can't have too many .308 bullets , can he ? __________________ Don't forget to have your liberals spayed or neutered !

February 8, 2013, 08:21 PM	#40
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	oneoldsap Yes a prize so to speak at the beginning of this thread I offered them to the person who was closest.

February 11, 2013, 09:58 PM	#41
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 818	There are two kinds..... ......of shooters with chronographs: Those who have shot their chronographs, .....and those who will!

February 11, 2013, 11:56 PM	#42
kilotanker22 Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2012 Posts: 193	I like your enthusiasm pathfinder. All I can say is I try to make certain that I shoot through the upper half of the screens. And the forward table is not as tall