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Old February 27, 2013, 06:18 PM   #1
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7-round revolver: I was impressed

I watched a video today about a S&W 686 3-5-7 Magnum, I assume an N frame, since it has a 7 round capacity of 357 magnum, with a 3 inch barrel. It made me think this would be like having one gun to do the job of both my Model 19 with a 4 inch barrel and my model 640 with a 2 inch barrel. The S&W website shows it as almost $859.00 for this model. I wonder what real world pricing is and how hard it would be to find. I also wondered how hard it would be to use this gun for concealed carry, being such a large heavy frame.
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:24 PM   #2
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The 686 is actually based on the L-Frame, which is much closer in size to the K than the N Frame. Actually, K and L Frames accept the same grips (round butt to round and square to square). The L Frames are a bit taller than the K Frame, and the cylinder is a bit larger in diameter (1.562" vs 1.445" or so). Also, they are a little beefier around the barrel to frame interface. This allows them to have a stronger, larger, completely circular forcing cone such that they can withstand a steady diet of 125 grain and under Magnum loads better than their K Frame brethern. They shouldn't be much tougher to carry than a K Frame. The standard 686 is a 6 shot version, while the 686 Plus is the 7 shooter.

Used examples can be found for $500 to $650 in this market, depending on the barrel length (4", 2.5", 3" in order of least to most expensive).

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Old February 27, 2013, 06:26 PM   #3
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7-round revolver: I was impressed

The 686 is an L framed revolver, same grip frame as the K but with a larger cylinder. Not as large as the N frame but definitely a full sized revolver. The "plus" models have the seven shot cylinder which is pretty neat. I can't help you evaluate price as I have not paid attention.
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:28 PM   #4
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I have not shot one, but a friend who owns both says that due to the shorter distance the cylinder has to rotate (1/7 circumference instead of 1/6 circumference per trigger pull), the 7-shot 686+ has a smoother, lighter DA pull than the original 6-shot 686.
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:28 PM   #5
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If you are a newbie this may be a nice gun, but, and there always is a but in life, after years and years, and years and years of police training and personal use I could not adapt to the timing of that seventh shot under stress I promise you.
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:32 PM   #6
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^^^ Interesting, I've never noticed a difference in the length of pull between my 7 shot 686 and 6 shooters. For that matter, I've not noted much difference in the pull length of my 5 shooers either.
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:34 PM   #7
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By timing I mean the shot count automatically when one does it over and over thousands of times...
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Old February 27, 2013, 06:37 PM   #8
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jad, he didn't say "length of pull." He indicated it was lighter and smoother, over the same distance - which makes sense, since it should have about a 15% leverage advantage.
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Old February 27, 2013, 07:22 PM   #9
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I paid $719 for my new 4" 686 PLUS, that was in September 2012
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Old February 27, 2013, 07:28 PM   #10
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I think the one you are referring to is the Talo 3-5-7 special edition that has the dark wood grips with "357" embossed on them ?

like this one..

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=330988241#PIC
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Old February 27, 2013, 07:38 PM   #11
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I bought a sort of 686 hybrid in December of 2011. It was a 686SSR (6 shot) made with a 686+ (7 shot) cylinder blank. The chamber walls varied from 0.10” thick to 0.04” depending on how the chambers and flutes lined up. I considered it highly dangerous and sent it back. They fixed it.

The 686 is a terrific gun. No reason the 686+ shouldn’t be as good.
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Old February 27, 2013, 08:21 PM   #12
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Don't forget the 8 round 357 N frames.



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Old February 27, 2013, 08:23 PM   #13
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The 686 is still on my wishlist, I shot it at the S&W Factory range and LOVED it, but have ended up buying 3 other guns instead.

One day, I want one. Maybe even a 586, I'd prefer a no-lock model.
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Old February 27, 2013, 08:37 PM   #14
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Ahhh, I see what everyone was referring to. I read the posts to fast.

As for lightness/smoothness, I'd say my 686 Plus isn't the most representative of 7 shooters. Though the trigger isn't bad, relatively speaking, it is the least smooth of all the S&Ws I own.
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Old February 27, 2013, 09:18 PM   #15
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That's nothing. I have a seven-shot revolver with a six-shot cylinder. And after a reload it's a 9-shot. Unless I stack the 9rd mag on top of five shots in the six-round cylinder, and then I've got 14 shots continuous.



And I'm still plotting bigger mags yet.
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Old February 28, 2013, 10:02 AM   #16
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Let's see a photo of yours, Jim.

Here's mine:

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Old February 28, 2013, 01:15 PM   #17
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Meet Maurice the FrankenRuger:





Shown with the 2rd carry mag inserted - two in the mag plus five in the cylinder. Here's a video of this beastie in operation, using both mags:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4XtVldNbO4

The comments I posted on youtube are fairly long and detail a lot about how it was built. No other personal arm ever made uses the same feed cycle that I know of.

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Old February 28, 2013, 02:03 PM   #18
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Man, that's just cool!
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Old February 28, 2013, 08:35 PM   #19
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Don't forget the 8 round 357 N frames.


Better photos of my TRR8 than I'm capable of making

The N-frames are even better when they're made of Aluminum--and better than that when they have 8 rounds of magnum on hand. I've got Biden's twin warning shots () in addition to the traditional six-shooter

Too bad you have to weld up a cylinder to own one in NY, now (, though I still havent' heard a clear answer on whether that joke is for real or not)

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Old March 1, 2013, 12:50 AM   #20
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The 686 plus is an excellent revolver - very accurate, robust, with a rather light double action trigger pull, and a single action pull like dry ice on glass.
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Old March 1, 2013, 06:26 AM   #21
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Just sold a 686 3 in plus no lock for $550 to dealer at gunshow. Fine revolver, just couldn't adapt to that 7th round.
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Old March 1, 2013, 12:23 PM   #22
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I have not shot one, but a friend who owns both says that due to the shorter distance the cylinder has to rotate (1/7 circumference instead of 1/6 circumference per trigger pull), the 7-shot 686+ has a smoother, lighter DA pull than the original 6-shot 686.

My son say's the same thing about my 686+.....but he shoots a lot more DA than I do. I bought a 5'' TALO 3-5-7 two years ago for just under $700. I don't notice any difference over my other 686s except that I end up with one round at the end of the box instead of two.
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Old March 1, 2013, 01:41 PM   #23
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Have both a 3 inch and 6 inch 686+ and love them both use the 3 inch for carry
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Old March 1, 2013, 02:27 PM   #24
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Should go with the 8 round .357 SW TRR8's little brother

the nightguard.

Same thing, in a snubbie!

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Old March 3, 2013, 12:30 AM   #25
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I just bought a new 686+ a few weeks ago and I love it. The seventh round is a nice addition for me, I haven't had issue with my timing, but I was initially trained on a double stack semi. I paid around $680 out the door for it, but that was after a good 7-8 months of patience and hunting.
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