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Old January 24, 2013, 10:59 PM   #1
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Just got my Lee Classic Turret Kit. Now what?

Order some dies I guess, primers, powder and I am ready to go right? I have heard the scales included aren't the best. Recommendations? Reading the manual now. Still need to build a bench so might be a few days to digest info before I begin. Other suggestions? Thanks!
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Old January 24, 2013, 11:12 PM   #2
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Depending on where you are, I wish you the best of luck finding primers, dies, and to a certain extent, powder as well. Obviously, you'll need brass and bullets, too.

As for the Lee balance-beam scale, it's a little slow to use and fiddly to adjust, but it's very accurate - gravity tends to be pretty consistent and reliable. Many new users confuse its sensitivity for inaccuracy, but just because the needle doesn't line up with the index mark perfectly with every charge you weigh, that doesn't mean you're not still within 0.1 gr.

If you're using the auto-disk powder measure and the priming setup that came with your press, and you're going to be loading more than one caliber, I'd recommend getting a Lee powder riser extension for each set of dies. The rise raises the powder measure up out of the way so it doesn't hit the primer tray, and it's easier just to leave the extension screwed into the die all the time, rather than moving it from die set to die set when you switch calibers.
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Old January 24, 2013, 11:13 PM   #3
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Bench plans

This looks good to me. I think you can just click it; if not, then

copy and paste this link to your browser


http://www.cornerhardware.com/how_to..._workbench/082
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Old January 25, 2013, 12:34 AM   #4
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The Lee Precision scale is a good scale in terms of accuracy, just slow to use. I think an inexpensive digital scale makes sense with some check weights with the Lee scale as a back-up. No sense to buy a replacement for something you have right now, unless $$$ is not a big concern. Lee Precision dies are an inexpensive way to start. They will work just fine.
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Old January 25, 2013, 12:53 AM   #5
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I would get the Hornady die lock rings. They are great. Keeps adjustments so you don't have to worry about losing setting on your dies. Get some imperial sizing media instead of using the messy lube included in the kit.
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Old January 25, 2013, 09:51 AM   #6
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I didn't catch if you said what cartridges you were going to reload for ??? but, you also should be prepared to clean any once fired cases, & trim cases as needed... ( case prep can be more time consuming than the actual reloading part )... was helping a buddy set up his Hornady progressive last weekend, & his new 357 mag cases from Starline were on the long side, barely inserted into his Taurus revolver... we still loaded up 20 rounds, as he didn't have anything to trim them with... even though we were using the lowest powder charges, we still got pressure signs ( flattened primers in this case ) on the longest cases that he could barely push into the chambers... so start at the lowest charge levels, & maybe load 10 at a time, moving up .3 to .5 grains at a time, depending on the charge range listed in your source... only if the lower charges look ok... if you are seeing flattened primers, or hard extraction, or failure to feed or function on a semi auto, stop, back up, & post here ( unless you have a "good" local reloader you can use as a mentor )...

so some sort of case trimmer should be on your list, & a way to clean your cases ( clean can be anything from wiping them down to make sure you don't scratch your dies with dirt, to wet tumbling, so they look like new ) the type of gun you are reloading for, often can determine how clean your cases need to be... a good metal caliper, not one of those cheesy plastic ones, & some way of recording your load ( I use a roll of 1.5" masking tape & a good ball point pen, & record )...

caliber
brand of case & trimmed length of case
brand & size of primer used
powder brand, & type used & charge weight
bullet manufacturer, style & weight
cartridge over all length
times loaded ( if known ) otherwise I write a ? + times I've loaded it
Date

I put a piece of tape on each box of ammo & write this on the tape

I really get into my reloading ( maybe more than the actual shooting )... it really can be rocket science, or it can be as simple as throwing lead stones, depending on what you are shooting, & how & why you shoot...
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Old January 25, 2013, 01:51 PM   #7
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Read the ABCs of Reloading. I just started myself and that book has taught me a ton. I also read the Lyman 49th Ed manual based off recommendations. It is very helpful.

I have been diving in to this for three weeks now and pretty much only been reading, watching on line videos, and setting up my bench.

I have made a couple dummy rounds (no primer or powder) to learn to set up dies, etc. That helped me a lot.

I now feel confident enough to make some live rounds this weekend.

I guess my newbie advice based on lots of research is to be patient. You don't want a stuck case on your first day (like the other similar thread.
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Old January 25, 2013, 05:22 PM   #8
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I would get the Hornady die lock rings. They are great. Keeps adjustments so you don't have to worry about losing setting on your dies.
I've never had my dies go out of adjustment with the Lee lock rings, why spend the extra money.
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Old January 25, 2013, 06:17 PM   #9
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Ya I keep reading that. I have yet to have a problem with Lee's lock rings.

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Old January 25, 2013, 06:21 PM   #10
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I am another that never has any issues with the Lee lock rings. They work great.
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Old January 25, 2013, 06:59 PM   #11
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if you are screwing those lee dies into a turret or a twist lock collar, you may not have a problem... I have alot of different brand dies, & while I don't "regularly" have issues with lee lock rings, the o-ring is not my favorite of designs, & it is much more prone to moving than lock rings with screw tension
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Old January 25, 2013, 07:30 PM   #12
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Order some dies I guess, primers, powder and I am ready to go right?
Yup.

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I have heard the scales included aren't the best.
The Lee scale is accurate. It just doesn't have much capacity, and isn't real easy to adjust.
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Old January 25, 2013, 08:14 PM   #13
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I agree with browninghunter86

I agree with browninghunter86 regarding the Imperial Sizing Wax. If you use something else be sure to buy the Stuck Case Kit from Midway or Sinclair, believe me you'll need it. After you've gotten a stuck case a couplke of times you'll switch ISW.

Someone said that they use mink oil (shoe department at Walmart) because its chaeaper and it works as well. I've never tried it, but keep it in the back of your mind just in case.

I also use Hornady lock rings and they to work well for me. Whatever you do, I would advise aganst Hornady One Shot. If you really want to use One Shot I'll sell you three cans for $5, a $30+ value.
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Old January 25, 2013, 08:25 PM   #14
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I agree with browninghunter86 regarding the Imperial Sizing Wax. If you use something else be sure to buy the Stuck Case Kit from Midway or Sinclair, believe me you'll need it.
It is funny how much opinion go into these posts. I just read a post today on these forums where the poster was using Imperial Sizing Wax and got cases stuck in not one die but two. One of the replies was and I am paraphrasing. "The reason the cases got stuck was because you are using Imperial Sizing Wax".

I have never used the stuff so I am not knocking it one way or the other. I just had to point out all of the contradicting info posted on a daily basis.

Eppie, I will buy the One Shot if you really want to part with it. I love the stuff.
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Old January 25, 2013, 10:09 PM   #15
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Old January 25, 2013, 10:17 PM   #16
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I would get the Hornady die lock rings. They are great. Keeps adjustments so you don't have to worry about losing setting on your dies. Get some imperial sizing media instead of using the messy lube included in the kit.
The hornady lock rings won't work with the lee turret. They're too big, the outside diameter that is. You just about HAVE TO use the lee rings.
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Old January 26, 2013, 01:22 PM   #17
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I agree with browninghunter86 regarding the Imperial Sizing Wax. If you use something else be sure to buy the Stuck Case Kit from Midway or Sinclair,
You don't need a stuck case remover with Lee dies. You just loosen the nut on top and drive the case out with a punch and the decapping pin. Takes about one minute.
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Old January 26, 2013, 02:57 PM   #18
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You don't need a stuck case remover with Lee dies. You just loosen the nut on top and drive the case out with a punch and the decapping pin. Takes about one minute.
Wow, cool feature.
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Wow, cool feature
There used to be a video on the Lee web site showing how to do it but I couldn't find it to add the link. It really is cool and very easy. I have only had to remove a couple but it was very easy to remove them.


PS: I was in a hurry the first time and missed it. Here is the link.

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Old January 26, 2013, 10:25 PM   #20
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only had 2 stuck cases ever. Both using the Lee dies and sizing wax. Trust me you don't want one. Even with Lee's design you still will most likely damage the top part of the die. Since I switched to the Imperial mica beads not a single issue and much cleaner than the sticky sizing wax.
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Since I switched to the Imperial mica beads....
What are you talking about? Never heard of such a thing. Do you have a link?
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/892...ion-media-1-oz

It doesn't say it is specifically mica but it is a dry lube similar
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Old January 27, 2013, 07:02 PM   #23
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Just got my Lee Classic Turret Kit. Now what?
Order some dies I guess, primers, powder and I am ready to go right?
What are you loading?
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I have heard the scales included aren't the best.
They are as accurate as the best, but more difficult to read than any I have ever tried. If you are not familiar with vernier scales, read up on them. Put the scale in good light on a stable surface (wall-mounted shelf is probably best) and AT EYE LEVEL where you can get your face close to it.
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Still need to build a bench so might be a few days to digest info before I begin.
I still don't have a bench after 37 years. I mounted my first press on a 2"x6" and wedged it into the drawer of an end table and secured it with a belt (the kind with an infinitely adjustable closure/buckle). My latest press is mounted on a similar board clamped into a Stanley or Black & Decker folding workbench.

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Other suggestions?
If you do work on an end table and coffee table as I did, spread a dropcloth under those tables and your chair. Use cloth, not plastic (quieter and drapes better so lost primers don't roll so far and static does not cause spilled powder and burnt primer debris to scatter).

For each different set of dies you buy, get a spare turret. Leaving the dies mounted makes caliber swaps so much easier.

How will you be meting powder? Weighing each charge gets to be tedious and slow. Lee dippers can be adequate, but the fastest on the Turret press would be the Auto-Disk. The Pro Auto-disk is a bit more durable and convenient than the standard, but either will do. The powder measures are cheap enough to have one permanently mounted on each die/turret setup already dialed in to your favorite powder charge. But DO VERIFY THE POWDER CHARGE WEIGHT each and every time you begin a loading session and occasionally during your sessions.

Be safe. Always. All ways.


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You are welcome. Thanks for asking our advice.

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p.s. Congratulations on an excellent choice of press. The Lee Classic Turret is the best 4-hole auto-indexing turret press currently made. Of course, it is one of only two auto-indexing presses made, and the other is the Lee Deluxe Turret.
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Old January 27, 2013, 07:04 PM   #24
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The stuck case method for removing a stuck case from a Lee die works. I have had it happen with .223 Rem brass. I use a tubing cutter to get the brass off of the stem. When you cut below the shoulder the left over part will slide off of the top.
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Old January 27, 2013, 07:37 PM   #25
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Good luck to you

I hope you have an easier time than I did. After reading this forum for a few days I decided to start reloading for my 308 win. It took nearly a month to find everything I needed to start powder and primers were the hardest. I got the last box of 1000 large rifle primers from cabelas in Eugene Or and the second to last imr 4320 (i know but thats all they had) 2 weeks ago and the've been dry ever since, i check 3 times a week. Im now trying to find powder and primers for my wifes 380 auto, good luck to us both.

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