Will a National AWB Be Passed During the 113th Congress Session? - Page 2

Coyote Blue · January 25, 2013, 01:12 AM

You must be in South Carolina,Tom. My best math Prof was from Manning. You got it down right. Harry simply cannot get to the magic number.

**Tom Servo** · January 25, 2013, 02:24 AM

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You must be in South Carolina,Tom

Nope, Georgia. Even we can count to 100, though

My biggest concern is with universalizing background checks. Rhetorically, that's a hard one to fight.

Coyote Blue · January 25, 2013, 02:59 AM

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My biggest concern is with universalizing background checks. Rhetorically, that's a hard one to fight.

True. But it can be overcome. I'm thinking we beat it.

jason_iowa · January 25, 2013, 07:53 AM

Very few politicians actually want it. It will be a horse trade for something that matters like infrastructure spending.

thallub · January 25, 2013, 09:53 AM

Look for a concerted effort to pass gun control legislation this year. The antis in congress would prefer to pass their gun control schemes in 2013.

Many, if not most, voters have short memories. The impact of gun control laws passed this year would be diluted and overshadowed by events come election time in 2014. Not so with gun control laws passed in 2014.

Coyote Blue · January 25, 2013, 11:08 PM

I want to thank you all for the fine comments and votes. It is greatly appreciated. This is an important moment for our rights.

And we shall prevail.

SPEMack618 · January 26, 2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

My biggest concern is with universalizing background checks. Rhetorically, that's a hard one to fight.

I agree with Tom as well on the background checks, but also worry about 10 round mag limit seperately of the AWB. I think that one is an even tougher fight rhetorically.

I can count to 100 too, I just have to get four of my Fraternity Brothers to take off thier shoes too.

Dr Big Bird PhD · January 26, 2013, 03:35 AM

Yeah I'm not worry about the AWB, just magazines and the NICS.

breakingcontact · January 26, 2013, 11:15 AM

According to some article I read yesterday which I can't locate now...the AWB may not even get out of the senate. I think the "high cap" ban may pass as it sounds more reasonable and has less emotional connotations for gun owners. No ones guns would be outlawed/registered/confiscated.

Why the mag limit should scare anyone is once they pass an arbitrary number, they can then drive that number down to zero.

Webleymkv · January 26, 2013, 01:45 PM

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Look for a concerted effort to pass gun control legislation this year. The antis in congress would prefer to pass their gun control schemes in 2013.

Many, if not most, voters have short memories. The impact of gun control laws passed this year would be diluted and overshadowed by events come election time in 2014. Not so with gun control laws passed in 2014.

Mid-term elections and presidential elections are two very different things. Turn out for presidential elections is almost always higher because of the publicity surrounding it and because, amongst certain demographics, voting in presidential elections has become the trendy thing to do. Also, four years is a longer period of time that two and thus it gives voters more time to forget a politician's past transgressions.

Mid-term elections, on the other hand, don't recieve near as much publicity as presidential ones and, as such, "low information" voters are much less likely to turn out for mid-terms. In contrast, the people who do vote in off years are by and large issue voters who are reasonably well informed. Basically, the people who are easily distracted and have short memories do not, by and large, vote in mid-term elections in significant numbers.

**Spats McGee** · January 26, 2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

My biggest concern is with universalizing background checks. Rhetorically, that's a hard one to fight.

Here's an article with some good points: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/univ...#axzz2J1HF3ski

**Glenn E. Meyer** · January 26, 2013, 07:19 PM

Politico.com has a couple of articles. One discusses the pros and cons of background checks.

The other reports that the real push will be for the loophole closure, mandatory chance story as compared to an AWB. While some want the latter that will be put forth to go the former. But the efficacy is doubted.

One thing mentioned is that states are not reporting those adjudicated to be mentally ill and that should be fixed.

Ronbert · January 28, 2013, 06:40 PM

I'm undecided.
It ain't over until it's over.

Our opponents are some pretty sneaky characters.
They might pass it to find out what's in it.

BarryLee · January 28, 2013, 06:52 PM

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I'm undecided.
It ain't over until it's over.

Our opponents are some pretty sneaky characters.

Currently we have a lot of energy focused on defeating this oppressive legislation. However, I fear a lot of people may think if we can defeat these various Bills in this session the fight is over. These guys are probably thinking more long term and will continue to try to push something past us if we are not vigilant. That is the primary reason we need groups like the NRA keeping watch and educating us.

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January 26, 2013, 03:35 AM	#33
Dr Big Bird PhD Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 656	Yeah I'm not worry about the AWB, just magazines and the NICS. __________________ I told the new me, "Meet me at the bus station and hold a sign that reads: 'Today is the first day of the rest of your life.'" But the old me met me with a sign that read: "Welcome back." Who you are is not a function of where you are. -Off Minor

January 26, 2013, 07:19 PM	#37
Glenn E. Meyer Staff Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 13,132	Politico.com has a couple of articles. One discusses the pros and cons of background checks. The other reports that the real push will be for the loophole closure, mandatory chance story as compared to an AWB. While some want the latter that will be put forth to go the former. But the efficacy is doubted. One thing mentioned is that states are not reporting those adjudicated to be mentally ill and that should be fixed. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. http://www.teddytactical.com/archive...05_Feature.htm Being an Academic Shooter http://www.teddytactical.com/archive...11_Feature.htm Being an Active Shooter

January 25, 2013, 01:12 AM	#26
Coyote Blue Member Join Date: September 10, 2011 Location: Miami,Florida Posts: 68	You must be in South Carolina,Tom. My best math Prof was from Manning. You got it down right. Harry simply cannot get to the magic number.

January 25, 2013, 07:53 AM	#29
jason_iowa Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 569	Very few politicians actually want it. It will be a horse trade for something that matters like infrastructure spending.

January 25, 2013, 09:53 AM	#30
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 1,737	Look for a concerted effort to pass gun control legislation this year. The antis in congress would prefer to pass their gun control schemes in 2013. Many, if not most, voters have short memories. The impact of gun control laws passed this year would be diluted and overshadowed by events come election time in 2014. Not so with gun control laws passed in 2014.

January 25, 2013, 11:08 PM	#31
Coyote Blue Member Join Date: September 10, 2011 Location: Miami,Florida Posts: 68	I want to thank you all for the fine comments and votes. It is greatly appreciated. This is an important moment for our rights. And we shall prevail.

January 26, 2013, 11:15 AM	#34
breakingcontact Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 639	According to some article I read yesterday which I can't locate now...the AWB may not even get out of the senate. I think the "high cap" ban may pass as it sounds more reasonable and has less emotional connotations for gun owners. No ones guns would be outlawed/registered/confiscated. Why the mag limit should scare anyone is once they pass an arbitrary number, they can then drive that number down to zero.

January 28, 2013, 06:40 PM	#38
Ronbert Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2009 Location: Ft. Collins, CO. Posts: 398	I'm undecided. It ain't over until it's over. Our opponents are some pretty sneaky characters. They might pass it to find out what's in it.