What Can I do to make a model 7 more accurate? - Page 2

WildBill45 · January 25, 2013, 08:44 PM

My Model 7 custom KS in 350 Rem mag with custom loads is a tack driver. I have not changed the scope setting in ten or more years, probably more...

steveNChunter · January 25, 2013, 09:11 PM

wpsdlrg- I am teeter tottering on the fence of whether or not to float the barrel. I am afraid of making things worse but if it will make even the first two shots from a cold barrel group better, I believe it is worth doing for a hunting rifle. How did your M7 do on the first two shots when it was floated?

reynolds357 · January 25, 2013, 09:50 PM

Measure the amount of pressure before you float. That way if floating does make it worse you can re create the pressure point.

Tim R · January 25, 2013, 10:19 PM

Steven.....OK you live in a single wide with little room for reloading or so you think. I used to C clamp a RCBS press to a $10.00 table I bought at a yard sale after I got caught by the wife using her table. I kept everything in their org boxes and it took up little storage space. It’s gratifying when you find the fodder your grumpy rifle likes.

bigalshootmupper · January 25, 2013, 11:00 PM

I free floated my model 7 6mm Rem and it made a huge difference. Mine has an 18" pencil barrel. It was shooting 3-4" at 100 yards with all ammos, even with reloads. I then free floated the barrel and it will sometimes do 1" at 100 yards.

I am not saying you should free float yours. I would try at least 6 different ammos before trying it. If all 6 shoot bad, I doubt free floating will make it worse. If it will shoot 1-2", then that may be all she will do.

Picher · January 25, 2013, 11:24 PM

Some weren't reading, so here it is again:

Pillar bedding and free-floating a model 7 can shoot fantastically, as noted in my previous post. The one I did was shooting 3/8 groups at 100 yards with factory Rem Loc-tites!!!!! Put that in your pencil-piped 7 and smoke it!!!

steveNChunter · January 25, 2013, 11:36 PM

big al- I wish I couldve found one chambered 6mm instead of .243. One of the best calibers ever to be killed.

Picher- I read it, and I believe it. I just hope if I float mine it will turn out as well as yours did.

reynolds357 · January 25, 2013, 11:47 PM

Picher, every rifle is different.

TexAg · January 26, 2013, 01:20 AM

My 6mm model seven has always been a 1-2" gun. It does have a bit of a stiff trigger and I'm sure lightening it up would help. I've used 100 grain Core lokt and 95 grain Hornady SST, both group about the same, SST just hits higher.

Picher · January 26, 2013, 08:25 AM

Floating without good action bedding can make accuracy worse. Actions must be bedded correctly, preferably pillar-bedded, to achieve consistency.

Two of the "musts": 1. masking tape under, both sides, and ahead of the recoil shield. Remove it after hardening/removal. This prevents the action from "rocking" on the epoxy.

2. After hardening/removal, be sure that any blind receiver screw holes aren't filled with epoxy, preventing the action from being adequately tightened into the bedding.

Done right, I've never seen a bolt-action rifle shoot worse after bedding.

January 25, 2013, 08:44 PM	#26
WildBill45 Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2011 Location: Western PA. Posts: 1,206	My Model 7 custom KS in 350 Rem mag with custom loads is a tack driver. I have not changed the scope setting in ten or more years, probably more... __________________ ......................................................... "If Ands and Buts were Candy and Nuts, everyday would be like Christmas"

January 25, 2013, 09:11 PM	#27
steveNChunter Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2012 Location: Southern Appalachian Mtns Posts: 431	wpsdlrg- I am teeter tottering on the fence of whether or not to float the barrel. I am afraid of making things worse but if it will make even the first two shots from a cold barrel group better, I believe it is worth doing for a hunting rifle. How did your M7 do on the first two shots when it was floated? __________________ *I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.* -Philippians 4:13 (KJV)

January 25, 2013, 10:19 PM	#29
Tim R Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2004 Location: God's side of Washington State Posts: 1,601	Steven.....OK you live in a single wide with little room for reloading or so you think. I used to C clamp a RCBS press to a $10.00 table I bought at a yard sale after I got caught by the wife using her table. I kept everything in their org boxes and it took up little storage space. It’s gratifying when you find the fodder your grumpy rifle likes. __________________ God Bless our Troops especially our Snipers.

January 25, 2013, 11:00 PM	#30
bigalshootmupper Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 146	I free floated my model 7 6mm Rem and it made a huge difference. Mine has an 18" pencil barrel. It was shooting 3-4" at 100 yards with all ammos, even with reloads. I then free floated the barrel and it will sometimes do 1" at 100 yards. I am not saying you should free float yours. I would try at least 6 different ammos before trying it. If all 6 shoot bad, I doubt free floating will make it worse. If it will shoot 1-2", then that may be all she will do. __________________ ”If you want to find out what is wrong with your country, go look in the mirror.” Ross Perot

January 25, 2013, 11:24 PM	#31
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 2,311	Some weren't reading, so here it is again: Pillar bedding and free-floating a model 7 can shoot fantastically, as noted in my previous post. The one I did was shooting 3/8 groups at 100 yards with factory Rem Loc-tites!!!!! Put that in your pencil-piped 7 and smoke it!!! __________________ If I can't be with the rifle I love, I love the rifle I'm with!!

January 25, 2013, 09:50 PM	#28
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 847	Measure the amount of pressure before you float. That way if floating does make it worse you can re create the pressure point.

January 25, 2013, 11:36 PM	#32
steveNChunter Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2012 Location: Southern Appalachian Mtns Posts: 431	big al- I wish I couldve found one chambered 6mm instead of .243. One of the best calibers ever to be killed. Picher- I read it, and I believe it. I just hope if I float mine it will turn out as well as yours did. __________________ *I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.* -Philippians 4:13 (KJV)

January 25, 2013, 11:47 PM	#33
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 847	Picher, every rifle is different.

January 26, 2013, 01:20 AM	#34
TexAg Member Join Date: July 9, 2010 Posts: 43	My 6mm model seven has always been a 1-2" gun. It does have a bit of a stiff trigger and I'm sure lightening it up would help. I've used 100 grain Core lokt and 95 grain Hornady SST, both group about the same, SST just hits higher.

January 26, 2013, 08:25 AM	#35
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 2,311	Floating without good action bedding can make accuracy worse. Actions must be bedded correctly, preferably pillar-bedded, to achieve consistency. Two of the "musts": 1. masking tape under, both sides, and ahead of the recoil shield. Remove it after hardening/removal. This prevents the action from "rocking" on the epoxy. 2. After hardening/removal, be sure that any blind receiver screw holes aren't filled with epoxy, preventing the action from being adequately tightened into the bedding. Done right, I've never seen a bolt-action rifle shoot worse after bedding. __________________ If I can't be with the rifle I love, I love the rifle I'm with!!