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Old January 22, 2013, 06:31 PM   #1
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Reduced Load

Looking for a reduced load for .223/5.56. Really want to stretch my powder, I think it's going to be tough to come by. Plus all I am doing is three gun comp practice so the cheaper I can shot for the better. I'm using 55 gr FMTBT Lake City, and have IMR4064 powder. It's a pain to use it but I got it for my .308 which I'm not shooting a lot right now. Thanks for the help gents.
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Old January 22, 2013, 06:39 PM   #2
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Look up James calhoon gopher loads.
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Old January 23, 2013, 06:35 AM   #3
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Look up Hodgdon reduced loads using H4895. I had great results with the reduced loads I did for my daughter and her .223.
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Old January 23, 2013, 10:08 AM   #4
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The only rifle powder I've ever seen, heard or personally used for light loads is H4895. Look over at Hodgdon's sight for formula. I personally wouldn't use any other rifle powder for reduced loads.

Pistol powders however are another story. I've personally used Trailboss, BlueDot and SR4759, Unique is also popular but I've never tried it. If you go over to the forums at 24hourcampfire there has been many threads concerning reduced loads with pistol powders in the past few years. It may take some work to find em but may be well worth your time. Look under Reloading: Varmint Rifles.

No matter what you're gonna need a different powder but it may well be worth the effort. Keeping things simple is Trailboss and H4895. Both have formulas of at Hodgdons.
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Old January 24, 2013, 05:28 PM   #5
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Thanks guys for all the info. In my SPEER reloading book they have a reduced load for .223 with 5744. Guess I'll just bite the bullet and buy some new powder..just trying to avoid that
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Old January 24, 2013, 05:51 PM   #6
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.223 with 5744
Will that load work the action of an auto?
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Old January 24, 2013, 08:30 PM   #7
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So far from what I have seen powder supply is not what is hard to come by. Even in the last shortage powder was easy to come by. Primers are another story altogether. I also advise practice with the same load you compete with.

H-335 is a good one for 55 grain bullets is my go to. It is standad among many that compete with 55 grain bullets for a reason.
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Old January 24, 2013, 08:52 PM   #8
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That's a really good question, I'm not sure if it will produce enough recoil to cycle the weapon system..can anyone comment?
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Old January 24, 2013, 08:58 PM   #9
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But now that I think about it, a lot of SF boys run suppressors with reduced loads, no?
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Old January 24, 2013, 11:11 PM   #10
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IMR-4064 is a slow burning powder for .223. It's okay for 65 grains on up, but marginal for 55 grainers. Now you want to reduce the load? it will be very erratic with reduced loads, may not ignite at all. Or just enough to stick a bullet halfway down the barrel.

Recoil energy has nothing to do with operation of an AR-15. It's gas pressure at the gas port in the front of the barrel. Those reduced 5744 loads will NOT operate the action. Neither would any reduced load with IMR-4895.

Not many choices for reduced loads for an AR type rifle. The gas system needs port pressure to operate properly.
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Old January 25, 2013, 08:33 PM   #11
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Stuffy, well said. Guess I'm just stuck paying for ammo like everyone else..
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