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Old January 22, 2013, 04:56 PM   #1
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Prove to me you Guest (nonmember) Glockers are up to my challenge.. if you dare...

As is widely known on this forum I am a true non believer in Glock.. I rarely mince words on it and I'm generally unapologetic about it. So here's my deal. If we get 100 new members on this forum who (on there honor) join this forum in the next 14 days in response to this post AND use the following link http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/ and I will refrain from negative Glock comments for 1 year. For the record I detest this brand and then some, so step up to the plate!

Get 1000 new members (on their honor) on this forum within 30 days and who use this link http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/ and I will buy a new G30 or G21 when available, or if legal in the next 6 months and post pics in here.

The 2A is way more important than my Glockisms, please support the 2A.

Please announce your membership and link usage below.
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Old January 22, 2013, 05:03 PM   #2
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I just sent personal letters out last week, so I aplaud your effort...

BTW... the links in red that I tried ( on that page ) did not work, so there's either an error, or they were simply too busy
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Old January 22, 2013, 05:09 PM   #3
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Sounds like someone secretly wants to try a Glock and come up with this as a way to save face

Thanks for posting the link again. I'm a Glocker and have already taken advantage of Rugers webpage. Thanks to Ruger as well.
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Old January 22, 2013, 05:12 PM   #4
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LOL - Im just trying to do my part to save all our guns and rights.. Sorry the links worked for me... and still seem to work. Maybe just busy.
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Old January 22, 2013, 05:13 PM   #5
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I'm very tempted to post this at GlockTalk, just to see if I can force BGutzman into buying that Glock.
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Old January 22, 2013, 05:15 PM   #6
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Please do Spats! I will even go farther and say I wont deface or sell it for at least one year!

PS - My signature will change when the challenge date runs out. I detest Glocks so here's your chance non members...
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Old January 22, 2013, 06:38 PM   #7
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I not a big Glock fan, I think I like the gun more than some of the arrogant Glock owners though.

Last year I bought a G20SF along with a Lone Wolf long slide with a 6.61" threaded barrel, Lone Wolf Compensator +2 round grip extender, 6.01" 9X25mm Dillon barrel,and, and,......should I keep going?

This is one bad 18 round Glock 10mm. What other 10mm compares to that?

I call it my Jackpot gun for a reason.
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Old January 22, 2013, 07:27 PM   #8
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Sweet compensator! Sweet package!
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Old January 22, 2013, 08:13 PM   #9
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Thats kinda like saying that, if your bride din't cook breakfast, you're going to go the IHOP for a stack of pancakes in protest.

Good try, genius level even, but no Kewpe Doll this time.

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Old January 22, 2013, 08:35 PM   #10
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I don't get it

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Is it Spring yet?!?!?
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Old January 22, 2013, 08:42 PM   #11
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Buying a gun isn't going to save your right.

Write your representatives and attend 2a rallies. VOTE this next cycle.
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Old January 22, 2013, 09:35 PM   #12
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My point remains I am a wildly critical of Glock and rightfully so. Here's your chance to write your legislature about guns using the given link AND put a burr under my saddle... What better than to make someone who despises Glock buy one. Scan my post from the past its no exaggeration. I do like some custom Glocks but its few and far between. Meet the goals and I will live up to my word...

I am assuming members have already been writing their reps so that's why I excluded them. I am trying, honestly trying to bring more of us into the fray by telling our reps the 2A is a right and not optional. So non-member Glockers get off the fence. If you think I'm wrong then tell me so here in this thread and support the 2A. You want your revenge for all the comments, here's a fair and honest shot.
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Old January 23, 2013, 06:25 AM   #13
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Congressmen ignore advocacy letters unless they're bundled with cash. Ruger's advocacy form letter is going into your representative's spam folder without even a look-over by anything more than an intern in a tight blouse and push-up bra.

Also, there are as many Sigs that would qualify, by your standards, to be as crappy as Glocks.
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Old January 23, 2013, 08:21 AM   #14
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I'm a member, I've written everyone on my own and by using the Ruger link, and my experiences with Glocks have all been positive...

I guess I am disqualified from playing...

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Old January 23, 2013, 09:35 AM   #15
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I have posted the following at GlockTalk:
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I'm a member at several gun websites, including The Firing Line. One of the members, an avowed unbeliever in Glocks, has issued the following challenge to Glock owners:

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Originally Posted by BGutzman
As is widely known on this forum I am a true non believer in Glock.. I rarely mince words on it and I'm generally unapologetic about it. So here's my deal. If we get 100 new members on this forum who (on there honor) join this forum in the next 14 days in response to this post AND use the following link http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/ and I will refrain from negative Glock comments for 1 year. For the record I detest this brand and then some, so step up to the plate!



Get 1000 new members (on their honor) on this forum within 30 days and who use this link http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/ and I will buy a new G30 or G21 when available, or if legal in the next 6 months and post pics in here.



The 2A is way more important than my Glockisms, please support the 2A.



Please announce your membership and link usage below.


All you have to do is sign up, use the Ruger Advocacy link to contact your representatives, and announce that you have done so in his thread. That thread is found here: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=513652



When I mentioned that I was tempted to post his thread here on GT, he said:

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Please do Spats! I will even go farther and say I wont deface or sell it for at least one year!
I don't frequent this site, but I hope (and think) that this crowd is as politically active as those at The Firing Line and The High Road (where I'm more active). If not, I figured that if there was any way to get Glock owners out in force, this challenge ought to do it!
That thread is here: http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/show....php?t=1466826
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Old January 23, 2013, 12:34 PM   #16
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Old January 23, 2013, 07:27 PM   #17
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Seriously non members? We the firearms community need you to participate... Not sure what else I can offer but wow not one taker? not one? This is about our rights... I do not in general like Glocks, its all true but this was actually an honest effort to get people involved... If you continue to do nothing you are helping let the other side cast an image that the average citizen just doesn't care about guns... That does not help any of us. Please do something.
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Old January 29, 2013, 07:35 PM   #18
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Since not one nonmember Glocker stepped up the first part of the challenge is already basically over.
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Old January 30, 2013, 09:37 AM   #19
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Well, crud. I was hoping that the (potentially fanatical) GlockTalk crowd would swamp this thread.
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Old January 30, 2013, 10:37 AM   #20
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BGutzman,

I will follow your lead on

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Get 1000 new members (on their honor) on this forum within 30 days and who use this link http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/ and I will buy a new G30 or G21 when available, or if legal in the next 6 months and post pics in here.
I will gladly pick up a Glock 21SF within 6 months, and give it a go, also if your goal is met.

(Most who know me, understand I am not, umm, big on Glocks myself)
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Old January 30, 2013, 07:09 PM   #21
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Worthwhile cause. Submitted my info there, and this is my first post here. Joined after seeing this post.
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Old January 30, 2013, 07:23 PM   #22
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Old January 30, 2013, 09:00 PM   #23
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After what happened to us here in NY, anything that can be done to get people to tell their reps and senators on a state and federal level is not only worthwhile, but also necessary.

And seeing a Glock hater have to buy one would be nice!
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Old January 30, 2013, 10:01 PM   #24
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I submitted mine with Ruger, not to long ago. Would love a free pistol, lol! But seriously I have gotten some form of response from all my States representatives in so form. Most were pre generated responses, well all were. But the last one I received today, while not directly written just for me was a very good response;

January 30, 2013

Dear Mr. Martin,

Thank you for contacting me about proposed gun regulations. I appreciate
hearing from you.

First and foremost, no words can adequately describe the tragedy that
occurred in Connecticut. *With the loss of so many innocent lives,
especially the young children, our prayers should continue to go out to the
families and the community around them. *While a political discussion of
what we in Congress can do to prevent future tragedies is inevitable, I hope
these discussions will not overshadow the memory of those who lost their
life that day.

As a Member of Congress I will honor my oath to "support and defend the
Constitution of the United States." *Since being ratified on December 15,
1791, the Bill of Rights has been one of the core pillars of our
Constitution. The rights enshrined to the people there have been a beacon to
the world. The 2nd Amendment states, "A well regulated Militia, being
necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep
and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." In 2008 the historic Supreme Court
case of D.C. vs Heller reaffirmed this amendment as a protection for
individuals of *the right to bear arms. There is no clause in the Second
Amendment qualifying or limiting this right.

As the 113th Congress begins there will be extensive discussion in the
months ahead concerning what, if any, changes to our gun laws or other laws
are needed following the tragic events in Connecticut. I take seriously the
need to safeguard the Constitutional right to bear arms. I believe that
responsible gun owners should not be punished for the actions of one
deranged person. I am concerned that in a rush to do something, there may be
an overreaction. *I think we need to take a thoughtful approach and look at
all of the facts in order to avoid any unintended consequences.

As we review the facts and study this issue I hope we also review the
effectiveness of current efforts to control gun use. The shooter in
Connecticut, a state with some of the most stringent gun control laws in the
nation, stole the guns from his mother after brutally murdering her. *He
illegally carried the guns into a "gun-free" zone because he knew there
would be no one to stop him. *According to the U.S. Department of Justice, a
majority of guns used by criminals are stolen, bought on the black market,
or obtained in other illegal ways. Most, if not all, of the laws being
proposed by gun control advocates would not have made any difference in
Connecticut.

Lastly, President Obama and Vice President Biden have both indicted they
will be using executive orders to pursue gun control. Unfortunately too
often this administration has used this tactic to go around Congress to
achieve its agenda. This flies in the face of the design of our Founding
Fathers when they established the Constitution with three co-equal branches
with checks and balances. Although the President can direct various
executive agencies how to do their business, the Constitution does not allow
the President to make law through executive order. If President Obama wants
changes to our gun laws he must bring these changes to Congress so we can
have an open, honest, and transparent debate. Anything other than this is
totally unacceptable.

As we as a nation continue to heal from this tragedy I hope we *also look
within our families, churches, and cultural institutions--for answers.
Thank you once again for providing me with your concerns. For more
information about my efforts on behalf of Colorado and to receive periodic
congressional updates, please visit my website at Lamborn.house.gov/.


* * * * *Sincerely,

Doug Lamborn
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Old January 30, 2013, 10:25 PM   #25
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Glock is a heck of a good , and proven battle weapon. I trust my life to mine everyday... Why the hatred?
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