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Old January 21, 2013, 01:23 PM   #1
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Ferrocerium tips

I have seen a few videos on youtube of people tipping 5.56 rounds with Ferrocerium tips.

Aside from the fact that youtube is full of useless info, what would be the benefit of this if any, is it just to throw sparks, just a really bad idea, etc... Thoughts opinions? Some strange physics at play in some of these situations because of the extreme forces at play, just wondering if the compressed / confined heat generated does anything other than show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocerium

such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCgiZ-MdSRU

Now I would also think that unless you were extremely careful and precise that the potential off center tip would throw accuracy out the door as the round spun at upwards of 250k rpm.
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Old January 21, 2013, 09:39 PM   #2
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They are probably just taking the little flint sticks intended for use in zippo lighters and shoving them into a hollow point.

When flint hits steel it ignites and burns at 3000 degrees.

Same reaction as striking a lighter without the butane.
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Old January 21, 2013, 09:56 PM   #3
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Oh, that is exactly what they are doing, some of the videos even demonstrate, the question was more geared toward any practical purpose?

Meaning does it impart anything interesting to the terminal ballistics other than sparks on hard targets?
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Old January 21, 2013, 10:26 PM   #4
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Probably wouldn't do anything exciting for anything other than shooting steel targets. For shooting steel it might be fun for steel shooting at night as it would allow you to see your impacts. Would probably also be good for starting brush fires around the steel targets.

If you had some bullets with a steel core that might be a little bit of an exciting spark shooting just about anything. as far as shooting anything other than a steel target I doubt they would even spark.
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Old January 22, 2013, 12:33 AM   #5
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Sounds like a forest fire waiting to happen.
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Old January 22, 2013, 10:01 AM   #6
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Yes. Not for plinking.
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Old January 22, 2013, 11:24 AM   #7
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So essentially all I end up with is a round that will perform sub par, possibly be dangerous, and toss pretty sparks if/when it hits hard targets.

Na, sounds like I will move on to another crazy idea.
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Old January 22, 2013, 01:12 PM   #8
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I look at as a novelty item. A dangerous one. I could see this causing a fire somewhere and the cost could be catastrophic.

They really do no good, in my opinion, because you either hit the target or you don't. I can see where a tracer might be nice (Night firing), so if you miss your target you know where to adjust your aim to.

I do not think it would harm your gun in anyway, providing it stayed put on the end of the bullet.
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Old January 22, 2013, 09:34 PM   #9
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Probably got the idea from John Ross's Unintended Consequences; I first saw it there.
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Old January 23, 2013, 03:18 AM   #10
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What a cool way to start a brush fire.
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Old January 23, 2013, 03:51 AM   #11
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If it was a controlled brush fire.

Having been in southern california for the last 5 years, dropping a candle during the summer is practically a felony.
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Old January 23, 2013, 05:03 PM   #12
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Burned down part of a indoor shooting range in Burnsville, MN. Now they inspect ammo coming in. Can't be attracted to a magnet.
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Old March 29, 2013, 04:36 PM   #13
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This is an old thread and there was a deleted suggestion of AP handgun ammo - which is troublesome.

Thus, there was no need to revive this.

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