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Old January 24, 2013, 08:06 AM   #26
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"don't you find the 7.62x39 a rather anemic cartridge? What will they penetrate deer hide and teeshirts? I guess, if you are comparing it to 223?"

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Old January 24, 2013, 08:46 AM   #27
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If you can find a good deal on one, by all means get one. However, I did read an account of an LGS in Texas selling an SKS for $975, and that is way too much. The other problem is in getting 7.62x39 ammo. It just isn't readily available right now, and when it does come in, it is bought up rather quickly. You almost have to be in your LGS as they stock it on the shelves, in order to get any, because it goes that fast.

If you can't find a good deal on one, I would wait until the panic dies down. They will be available for a long time, because so many were imported into the US.
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Old January 24, 2013, 10:21 AM   #28
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I don't feel there worth the asking prices on sks rifle , they were actually the cheapest 7.62x39 for the longest time .
The 5.45x39 was a great deal for the modern day 1080 rounds for 129 a few months ago , as the Rifleman said cost and finding ammo these days is the problem .
I have cut back on shooting anything I can't reload .
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Old January 24, 2013, 02:10 PM   #29
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don't you find the 7.62x39 a rather anemic cartridge? What will they penetrate deer hide and teeshirts? I guess, if you are comparing it to 223?
um.... where did this come from? it's not the latest and greatest but it has compareable ballistics to 30-30 with is the all time best selling medium game cartridge around. lighter bulelts yes but it is fully capable of taking blackbear on down.
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Old January 24, 2013, 02:19 PM   #30
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yes milled receivers on sks. I had my mind on AKs.
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Old January 24, 2013, 02:55 PM   #31
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I think he's trying to be funny Tahunua
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Old January 24, 2013, 06:19 PM   #32
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ahhhh... OK, sarcasm is wasted on me
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Old January 24, 2013, 07:58 PM   #33
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Prices on SKS rifles are not coming down in the short term. The trend started in 2012, and the volume of sales at the "new normal" confirms that the general gun buyer (not collector, yet anyway) is accepting the new price level.
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Old January 24, 2013, 08:27 PM   #34
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Actually, they'll drop LIKE A ROCK as soon as it becomes evident there will be NO "AWB"...

Even Biden backed off- today, as matter of fact...

As Dear Diane did her dog and pony show.

It will be a matter of months, not longer. And the guys that stockpiled SKS's (and just about everything else) will be dumping them on the market because they need the money for something else...

Let's see, these were $800 a few months ago.
Now, there's fools that'll pay 50% more, for one with a busted stock, and "limited hardware"..


http://centerfiresystems.com/VSB308-20-01.aspx


What the heck is "limited hardware", anyway? No sights??

Man, the guys over in Russia are laughing all the way to the bank.

A fool is born, every minute. Just like the guys paying $150 for a brick of 50 year old 54R surplus...

As far as the "state issues" go... the states are bound by the Second Amendment.

It will not be long, post Heller, before a lawsuit is filed challenging the constitutionality of NY's behind closed doors, middle of the night fiasco...

My money says that if I just wait a bit, and don't buy guns or ammo I don't really NEED, they'll still be there just a few months from now, and many for 50% or more less than what they're selling for now.

Time, will tell...
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Old January 24, 2013, 11:10 PM   #35
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I had an SKS, then I bought an SKS-M. I sold the SKS when got rid of my collection rifles. The SKS-M is likely to go this weekend. I imagin it will fetch far more than I paid.
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Old January 25, 2013, 12:04 AM   #36
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"where did this come from? it's not the latest and greatest but it has compareable ballistics to 30-30 with is the all time best selling medium game cartridge around. lighter bulelts yes but it is fully capable of taking blackbear on down. "

I know i wouldn't go off with with a sks after black bears around Maine. I'd rather take a marlin with 170 grains, then i'd feel a lot better off with 5 in the tube than whatever in the stripper. the 30/30 will kick butt over the sks round, it is no contest. it is a wimp round, only meant for non-armored humans and light skinned deer. :}

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Old January 25, 2013, 12:16 AM   #37
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the 30/30 will kick butt over the sks round, it is no contest. it is a wimp round, only meant for non-armed humans.

Well xnaerughiazk if you think this to be true then grab a 30-30 go to 200 yards and get shot with a x39 round. I bet after that happens you will change your mind.

Just remember there have been lots of people all over the world that have been killed with the 7.62x39 round. Doesn't matter if it was shot out of an SKS, AK or a bolt action.
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Old January 25, 2013, 12:44 AM   #38
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It is inspirational to watch both "Brandon401401" and "hickok45" on their Youtube Channels hit small gongs from over 200-300 yards with iron sight AKs in a Free Stance.

With well-developed skill, how about using an SKS with a Tech Sight, which can really improve accuracy?
Most shooters don't seem to realize this benefit, or that the adjustable version for the SKS costs about $50 and is easy to install.

Many of those who say "Commie junk this" "Commie that.." either don't have the skill, or must justify the extra heaps of cash they spent on a trendy, chic rifle.
Hollywood and other media have brainwashed even huge numbers of gun owners into being anti-AK (or SKS), which only furthers their gun-control agendas...
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Old January 25, 2013, 09:58 AM   #39
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I just picked up a tech-sight I keep hearing good things about it.
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Old January 25, 2013, 11:36 AM   #40
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Well xnaerughiazk if you think this to be true then grab a 30-30 go to 200 yards and get shot with a x39 round. I bet after that happens you will change your mind.

That's my point, thin-skinned humans.

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Old January 25, 2013, 03:23 PM   #41
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hog hunters don't seem to have much trouble x39, hog skin and black bear are very similar in thickness
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Old January 25, 2013, 03:43 PM   #42
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The sks was not intended for hogs pigs bear goats whatever. It's a battle rifle.
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Old January 25, 2013, 05:54 PM   #43
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It is inspirational to watch both "Brandon401401" and "hickok45" on their Youtube Channels hit small gongs from over 200-300 yards with iron sight AKs in a Free Stance.
The 7.62 x 39 suffers the same lousy balllistics as the .30 cal rounds from the AR platform...not enough case capacity to push these bullets much beyond 100 yards before they start dropping like a rock.

Sure, you can hit at 200- with over a foot of bullet drop.

Larry Vickers did a show comparing the .223/5.56, the 7.62 x 39 (AK), and the .300 Blackout...

The .300 Blk and the 7.62 x 39 (ballistically the same round) both dropped a foot from 100 yards to 200... He said there was no reason to even try 300 yards, as they had planned.

So sure, you can hit anything if you arc the barrel enough. But getting close to volley fire to hit at a few hundred yards just isn't what the round was intended to do. I love the AK platform, my son's is a two minute gun and he'll hit a 200 yards. Best hope the wind isn't blowing...
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Old January 26, 2013, 12:49 AM   #44
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I will admit that the 7.62x39 is not the greatest round out there by a long shot. But some people seem to think it hits a brick wall at 200 yards. Why I have no idea.

Yes it does have considerable drop. But the sights on an AK or SKS are made to take that into account. I guess that means that 5.56x45 or .223 if you will won't kill anything bigger than coyote's.

We all have pet rounds and guns. Some of us like a little recoil, some a lot of recoil. So let's just let each other use what we want and go on from there.
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