Poll: ME, NH, VT - which has the best 2A future? - Page 2

MLeake · January 22, 2013, 10:31 AM

dayman, while you may have a point about Maine's constitution, it certainly did not stop Michael Chitwood (IIRC) and Portland from passing ordinances barring firearms in public housing, several years ago. I haven't followed that little mess since then, so I do not know if the courts eventually smacked them down.

Gun control has a nasty habit of targeting the poor, through its implementation. Funny how that works...

dayman · January 22, 2013, 02:07 PM

That was probably before I was paying attention. I honestly don't know what ever came of it.
I know we just recently passed a law saying that employers cant ban employees from keeping locked guns in their parked cars (unless you work at a school or a federal building).

But all in all it seems like the state has a few (but growing number) people who are for gun control in general, and a huge number of people who don't care as long as their bolt gun is in the clear. Far too few people are able to see - or care about - the big picture.
Things are pretty good right now, but I just don't think the 2a crowd up here is organized enough - or has enough inroads with the general population - to put up much of a fight if there was ever an organized push to take away what we have. I'm positive there would be a lot of very angry people afterward, but that doesn't always translate into productive political advocacy.
Which, is why I put VT above ME in the long term.

h2otoo · January 22, 2013, 02:56 PM

Well, I am happy with Maine, for now anyhow. Always worry about what will come. I got to wonder, though, when NH increased the out of state CC permit from a renewal fee of 35 to 100$, was that to decrease the number of permit holders? I am guessing that was the reason, and I am sure it worked for them. I just wont carry there, hence, wont go there. Anyhow, it does seem like a move antis would do.

Bob

johnwilliamson062 · January 25, 2013, 10:23 AM

The renewal fee may have been to cover costs. I know Sheriff departments here complain they lose money on CCW at $65 or whatever.

View Poll Results: Which has the best 2A future?
ME	7	19.44%
NH	13	36.11%
VT	10	27.78%
They will all go the way of NY/MA	6	16.67%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

January 22, 2013, 02:07 PM	#27
dayman Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2011 Location: the north woods Posts: 680	That was probably before I was paying attention. I honestly don't know what ever came of it. I know we just recently passed a law saying that employers cant ban employees from keeping locked guns in their parked cars (unless you work at a school or a federal building). But all in all it seems like the state has a few (but growing number) people who are for gun control in general, and a huge number of people who don't care as long as their bolt gun is in the clear. Far too few people are able to see - or care about - the big picture. Things are pretty good right now, but I just don't think the 2a crowd up here is organized enough - or has enough inroads with the general population - to put up much of a fight if there was ever an organized push to take away what we have. I'm positive there would be a lot of very angry people afterward, but that doesn't always translate into productive political advocacy. Which, is why I put VT above ME in the long term. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. ~B. Franklin

January 25, 2013, 10:23 AM	#29
johnwilliamson062 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6,108	The renewal fee may have been to cover costs. I know Sheriff departments here complain they lose money on CCW at $65 or whatever. __________________ $0 of an NRA membership goes to legislative action or court battles. Not a dime. Only money contributed to the NRA-ILA or NRA-PVF. Of course, you could just donate to the Second Amendment Foundation I was feeling pretty good, then I looked around and realized I am not swimming or on fire.

January 22, 2013, 10:31 AM	#26
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 9,662	dayman, while you may have a point about Maine's constitution, it certainly did not stop Michael Chitwood (IIRC) and Portland from passing ordinances barring firearms in public housing, several years ago. I haven't followed that little mess since then, so I do not know if the courts eventually smacked them down. Gun control has a nasty habit of targeting the poor, through its implementation. Funny how that works...

January 22, 2013, 02:56 PM	#28
h2otoo Member Join Date: October 29, 2012 Posts: 75	Well, I am happy with Maine, for now anyhow. Always worry about what will come. I got to wonder, though, when NH increased the out of state CC permit from a renewal fee of 35 to 100$, was that to decrease the number of permit holders? I am guessing that was the reason, and I am sure it worked for them. I just wont carry there, hence, wont go there. Anyhow, it does seem like a move antis would do. Bob