'Pre-Ban' production ends at serial #....?

saltydog452 · January 14, 2013, 12:10 PM

The rifle is a Colt HBAR. The seller, a neighbor, says it is a 'pre-ban'. Is that a good thing?...why/why not?...

At what point in the serial number sequence did 'pre ban' become 'post ban'?

Thanks,

salty

Darth vader · January 14, 2013, 12:46 PM

Yes it is a good thing if you live in a restrictive state like new york, conn ,new jersey, mass etc.call colt directly with serial number and they will give you date when your ar was made, prior to sept 1994 you have pre ban gun after it is a post ban. regards Marc

kimbershot · January 14, 2013, 01:07 PM

pre ban configuration or built before 1994 awb went into effect-that's the question.

Jo6pak · January 14, 2013, 02:05 PM

I'm pretty sure a Colt "post-ban" ARs would be missing the flash hider. Which would be an easy way to spot one.

R. Walter · January 14, 2013, 07:13 PM

I have a post (1994) ban Colt HBAR 1in7 twist. My rifle does not have the flash suppressor or the bayonet lug. None of the Colt HBARs post-ban have the flash suppressor or the bayonet lug.

Personally, the flash suppressor and the bayonet lug don't do a thing for me. It's not like I'm going to be fixing bayonets and charging up a hill anytime soon. Otherwise this rifle shoots the Sierra 77gr HPBT into 1/2 MOA. That's what really counts for me.

slappy · January 14, 2013, 08:17 PM

I think we are getting our terms confused are we not? Pre ban would be prior to the Ban beginning in Sept '94. Post ban would ban anything after Sept '04. The only ones that still wouldn't have a suppressor on it should be those built for sale in a state that continued the ban after '04 such as NY, NJ, CA, etc. At least this is my understanding.

R. Walter · January 15, 2013, 02:34 PM

Slappy, your quote follows:

"I think we are getting our terms confused are we not? Pre ban would be prior to the Ban beginning in Sept '94. Post ban would ban anything after Sept '04."

And what do you term the period of the 10 year ban?

lcpiper · January 15, 2013, 02:48 PM

It's the sporter decade

slappy · January 15, 2013, 04:37 PM

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And what do you term the period of the 10 year ban?

That would be during the ban, not after or post ban. ARs built during this period were "ban compliant". Post ban they went back to being what they were pre-ban unless you live in one of those states that didn't allow the ban to sunset.

the blur · January 16, 2013, 10:44 PM

NY just ban pre-ban mags.

IMtheNRA · January 17, 2013, 12:26 AM

If I remember right, 94-04 production rifles were called post-ban. After September 2004, I've been calling them no-ban.

I wonder what we'll call them in a few months.

BPowderkeg · January 17, 2013, 08:23 AM

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Personally, the flash suppressor and the bayonet lug don't do a thing for me.

amazing, especially on a gun forum, to me that is like saying, 20 - 30 round mags, pistol grip and scope don't do a thing for me !!

89yj · January 17, 2013, 12:12 PM

The flash suppressor and bayonet lug don't do anything for me either. I have no problem with them and don't want them banned. I personaly don't have a specific need for them.

CajunBass · January 17, 2013, 12:20 PM

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amazing, especially on a gun forum, to me that is like saying, 20 - 30 round mags, pistol grip and scope don't do a thing for me !!

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The flash suppressor and bayonet lug don't do anything for me either. I have no problem with them and don't want them banned. I personaly don't have a specific need for them.

They don't me either, but then I've never wanted an AR. I don't care if you want them, they're ok with me, but I don't HAVE to want one.

January 14, 2013, 12:10 PM	#1
saltydog452 Senior Member Join Date: August 16, 2004 Posts: 436	'Pre-Ban' production ends at serial #....? The rifle is a Colt HBAR. The seller, a neighbor, says it is a 'pre-ban'. Is that a good thing?...why/why not?... At what point in the serial number sequence did 'pre ban' become 'post ban'? Thanks, salty __________________ Bread and Circuses don't pay the Bills.

January 14, 2013, 12:46 PM	#2
Darth vader Member Join Date: July 15, 2008 Location: seaford new york Posts: 21	pre ban colt Yes it is a good thing if you live in a restrictive state like new york, conn ,new jersey, mass etc.call colt directly with serial number and they will give you date when your ar was made, prior to sept 1994 you have pre ban gun after it is a post ban. regards Marc

January 14, 2013, 02:05 PM	#4
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,140	I'm pretty sure a Colt "post-ban" ARs would be missing the flash hider. Which would be an easy way to spot one. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

January 15, 2013, 02:48 PM	#8
lcpiper Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2011 Posts: 1,034	It's the sporter decade __________________ Colt M1911 \| Kimber Ultra Carry II \| SIG P238 \| Berreta 85B Cheetah \| Ruger Blackhawk .357MAG / 38SPCL\| Remington Marine Magnum SP 12GA.\|[/B] Ruger Bearcat "Shopkeeper" .22LR

January 17, 2013, 12:26 AM	#11
IMtheNRA Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2001 Posts: 137	If I remember right, 94-04 production rifles were called post-ban. After September 2004, I've been calling them no-ban. I wonder what we'll call them in a few months. Last edited by IMtheNRA; January 17, 2013 at 12:38 AM.

January 14, 2013, 01:07 PM	#3
kimbershot Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2008 Posts: 105	pre ban configuration or built before 1994 awb went into effect-that's the question.

January 14, 2013, 07:13 PM	#5
R. Walter Junior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: Catron County, NM Posts: 7	I have a post (1994) ban Colt HBAR 1in7 twist. My rifle does not have the flash suppressor or the bayonet lug. None of the Colt HBARs post-ban have the flash suppressor or the bayonet lug. Personally, the flash suppressor and the bayonet lug don't do a thing for me. It's not like I'm going to be fixing bayonets and charging up a hill anytime soon. Otherwise this rifle shoots the Sierra 77gr HPBT into 1/2 MOA. That's what really counts for me.

January 14, 2013, 08:17 PM	#6
slappy Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Posts: 928	I think we are getting our terms confused are we not? Pre ban would be prior to the Ban beginning in Sept '94. Post ban would ban anything after Sept '04. The only ones that still wouldn't have a suppressor on it should be those built for sale in a state that continued the ban after '04 such as NY, NJ, CA, etc. At least this is my understanding.

January 15, 2013, 02:34 PM	#7
R. Walter Junior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: Catron County, NM Posts: 7	Slappy, your quote follows: "I think we are getting our terms confused are we not? Pre ban would be prior to the Ban beginning in Sept '94. Post ban would ban anything after Sept '04." And what do you term the period of the 10 year ban?

January 16, 2013, 10:44 PM	#10
the blur Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2010 Posts: 157	NY just ban pre-ban mags.

January 17, 2013, 12:12 PM	#13
89yj Junior Member Join Date: December 23, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 8	The flash suppressor and bayonet lug don't do anything for me either. I have no problem with them and don't want them banned. I personaly don't have a specific need for them.