12 in. Pietta 1858 ???

E Rob · January 5, 2013, 06:44 PM

Picked this up the other day, like new, never been fired, rifle sights. When did they ever make something like this?

Hawg Haggen · January 5, 2013, 07:36 PM

AFAIK nobody ever made one like that. Probably a home brew.

deerslayer303 · January 5, 2013, 08:11 PM

Its not an 1858. What is it a Dragoon? Can't really tell in that pic how long that cylinder is.

E Rob · January 5, 2013, 08:16 PM

Well I would like to meet the person that did it.

E Rob · January 5, 2013, 08:18 PM

2 and 7/8

E Rob · January 5, 2013, 08:23 PM

More pics

deerslayer303 · January 5, 2013, 08:24 PM

Did you buy that from Jack Nicholson?? Looks like the pistol that took down the batwing

Seriously though, nice lookin piece. Let us know how it shoots.

Beagle333 · January 5, 2013, 08:37 PM

Yep.... looks like a Frankengun to me too.

noelf2 · January 5, 2013, 08:41 PM

EMF imported them. It's an 1851 buntline target model. Now you need to get a shoulder stock for it. Would make a fine carbine.

Beagle333 · January 5, 2013, 08:45 PM

http://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/...tline-c141.htm

I guess they also offered one with target sights at some point. Interesting.

noelf2 · January 5, 2013, 08:57 PM

http://rprca.tripod.com/ModelsOther.html

About half way down the page.

E Rob · January 5, 2013, 09:10 PM

Thanks and a pat on the back for Noelf2

brazosdave · January 5, 2013, 09:11 PM

that's pretty darn cool!

Fingers McGee · January 6, 2013, 12:45 AM

Pietta also made a brass framed .44 cal Schneider & Glassick carbine back in the 90s. Bottom one inthe photo.

There's one on GunBroker for sale right now item #324910006 .

North East Redneck · January 6, 2013, 02:55 AM

I have a 1974 vintage pietta 1851 with a 12" barrel. Shoots very well. I imagine it would be that much better with those target sights, not as pretty, but more in tune with longer range shootin.

Doc Hoy · January 6, 2013, 08:57 AM

...I had one from EMF with a brass frame. They marketed the revolver under the model name "Ballister". I do not now nor ever did know the significance of the name.

When I bought the revolver the barrel was actually bent. I mean bent. You could lay the barrel on a flat surface and see daylight in the middle.

I bought the thing when I was stationed in Guam in about 1977. Ordered it through Shotgun News. Took six weeks to get it and I was not confident that if I returned it, that I would ever see it again. So I straightened the barrel as best I could.

It shot okay but the stigma of the defect never left me and I never developed a warm regard for the pistol.

It was essentially a 1851 Navy style pistol but in .44 and with a brass frame. Mine did not have the target sights.

North East Redneck · January 6, 2013, 08:45 PM

Doc, mine also is a 'Ballister'. Imported by Richland Arms and sent to Gun Digest as a test gun. Have all the paperwork and box. Thing shoots well. Cylinder is gouged a bit on trailing edges of lock up notches.

January 5, 2013, 07:36 PM	#2
Hawg Haggen Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 10,243	AFAIK nobody ever made one like that. Probably a home brew. __________________ http://blackpowdertimes.com/index.php

January 5, 2013, 08:24 PM	#7
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: McMinnville TN Posts: 1,116	Did you buy that from Jack Nicholson?? Looks like the pistol that took down the batwing Seriously though, nice lookin piece. Let us know how it shoots. __________________ "You're so drunk you cant hit nothin, In fact you're probably seeing double"...."I have TWO GUNS one for each of ya"

January 5, 2013, 08:41 PM	#9
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,318	EMF imported them. It's an 1851 buntline target model. Now you need to get a shoulder stock for it. Would make a fine carbine. __________________ This message and signature were both made using 100% recycled electrons.

January 5, 2013, 08:57 PM	#11
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,318	http://rprca.tripod.com/ModelsOther.html About half way down the page. __________________ This message and signature were both made using 100% recycled electrons.

January 5, 2013, 09:11 PM	#13
brazosdave Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2012 Location: Copperas Cove, TX Posts: 251	that's pretty darn cool! __________________ "I'm your huckleberry, it's just my game"

January 5, 2013, 08:11 PM	#3
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: McMinnville TN Posts: 1,116	Its not an 1858. What is it a Dragoon? Can't really tell in that pic how long that cylinder is. __________________ "You're so drunk you cant hit nothin, In fact you're probably seeing double"...."I have TWO GUNS one for each of ya"

January 5, 2013, 08:18 PM	#5
E Rob Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 38	2 and 7/8

January 5, 2013, 08:37 PM	#8
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Back in the woods a piece Posts: 743	Yep.... looks like a Frankengun to me too.

January 5, 2013, 08:45 PM	#10
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Back in the woods a piece Posts: 743	http://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/...tline-c141.htm I guess they also offered one with target sights at some point. Interesting.

January 5, 2013, 09:10 PM	#12
E Rob Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 38	Thanks and a pat on the back for Noelf2

January 6, 2013, 12:45 AM	#14
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,720	Pietta also made a brass framed .44 cal Schneider & Glassick carbine back in the 90s. Bottom one inthe photo. There's one on GunBroker for sale right now item #324910006 . __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

January 6, 2013, 02:55 AM	#15
North East Redneck Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2012 Location: Berkshire Hills Posts: 303	I have a 1974 vintage pietta 1851 with a 12" barrel. Shoots very well. I imagine it would be that much better with those target sights, not as pretty, but more in tune with longer range shootin. __________________ NRA Life Member Goal Member SAF Member

January 6, 2013, 08:57 AM	#16
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,348	Back in the day.... ...I had one from EMF with a brass frame. They marketed the revolver under the model name "Ballister". I do not now nor ever did know the significance of the name. When I bought the revolver the barrel was actually bent. I mean bent. You could lay the barrel on a flat surface and see daylight in the middle. I bought the thing when I was stationed in Guam in about 1977. Ordered it through Shotgun News. Took six weeks to get it and I was not confident that if I returned it, that I would ever see it again. So I straightened the barrel as best I could. It shot okay but the stigma of the defect never left me and I never developed a warm regard for the pistol. It was essentially a 1851 Navy style pistol but in .44 and with a brass frame. Mine did not have the target sights. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

January 6, 2013, 08:45 PM	#17
North East Redneck Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2012 Location: Berkshire Hills Posts: 303	Doc, mine also is a 'Ballister'. Imported by Richland Arms and sent to Gun Digest as a test gun. Have all the paperwork and box. Thing shoots well. Cylinder is gouged a bit on trailing edges of lock up notches. __________________ NRA Life Member Goal Member SAF Member