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Old January 4, 2013, 05:56 PM   #1
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My first trip to the Sierra Outlet Store

Made my first trip the the outlet store today in Sedelia. Im rather pleased! I asked for 20 lbs and the girl at the counter just filled the box up for me so I ended up with about 1300 (31 lbs) 168 grain BTHP Match Kings for a little over 200 bucks. Havent gone through them yet but from what I can see they look pretty nice. The mixed bullet barrel is no longer a great deal. They raised the price up a lot because people were buying and reselling them. Ive attached a pic of whats on the top of the box.
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Old January 4, 2013, 06:28 PM   #2
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Did the girl tell you why those bullets were for sale in bulk?
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Old January 4, 2013, 06:31 PM   #3
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That's pretty cool. Didn't know there was such a place.
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Old January 4, 2013, 06:41 PM   #4
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Sorry I would have said more. There are older threads on this forum about the store. Thats how I found out about it.

They sell blemished bullets through the outlet store. From what I see and have read very few of the seconds need to be discarded. The store is attached to the manufacturing facility and is in Sedelia MO and only sell seconds in person. No mail order on these.

Its worth a stop if you are ever in this area.
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Old January 4, 2013, 06:54 PM   #5
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I have heard about that place and if I’m ever in the area I will definitely stop in. I will also have to check out Starline brass next store.
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Old January 5, 2013, 06:49 AM   #6
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Sierra's been selling "seconds" over the counter at retail at their plant for decades. Bullets that don't meet accuracy standards are sold by the pound in bulk priced close to what it cost to make them.

Their 30 caliber 168 HPMK's have an accuracy standard of 10-shot 1/4 MOA average at 200 yards. At their California plant, they would grab a handfull of bullets as they came out of the last forming stage (at near 100 per minute), seat them in charged cases then shoot them about 10 seconds apart in a rail gun; repeating this for the entire production run several times an hour. If group average got over specs, the large bucket holding them would have the last few inches of bullets scraped off, then those plus all subsequent bullets not meeting specs would be set aside. Last I checked, the Missouri plant did the same thing.

Folks I talked with in southern California during the 60's and 70's said most of the time, the 168's shot about 1/2 to 3/4 MOA in match rifles through 300 yards. Heavier HPMK seconds shot about the same at shorter ranges but from 1 to 1-1/2 MOA at 600 and were not all that great as they got worse at longer ranges. Sierra's hunting and varmint seconds seemed to be a better deal. I got some 30 caliber 180-gr. SBT seconds that easily shot MOA through 200 yards in a .300 Win. Mag. And their 22 and 24 caliber varmint bullet se condss have had a decent track record.
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Old January 5, 2013, 08:34 AM   #7
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It's spelled SEDALIA, rjs123, Did you take the plant tour?
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Old January 5, 2013, 09:52 AM   #8
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What exactly is a 1/2"-3/4" MOA at 300yds.
MOA is 100yds, so are you meaning 1 1/2"-2 1/4" groups at 300yds?
Thats pretty good for seconds.
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Old January 5, 2013, 12:43 PM   #9
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reloader28, yes, 1-1/2"-2-1/4" groups at 300yds is 1/2 to 3/4 MOA at that range.

Sierra's 30 caliber 168's typically shoot about 1/4 MOA at 200, 3/8ths MOA or a bit more at 300 yards. Their special ones they used to sell 1000 in a plain brown box until they moved to Missouri would shoot much better; well under 2/10ths MOA at 200 and not much bigger at 300. Too bad those are not available any more.
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Old January 13, 2013, 12:00 PM   #10
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I did not know it was in sedalia my wife's family lives there so next trip to see family will have a detour . Is starline close by i might have to have a couple of outings while we are there:d SORRY JUST LOOKED UP ADDR FOR STARLINE AND THEY ARE ALSO IN SEDALIA 2 OUTINGS NEXT TIME
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