walker/dragoon

salvadore · January 4, 2013, 03:44 PM

My local shooter emporium has a Walker and a Dragoon..I believe 3rd model not particularly great case on either, fit on the walker may be a bit off, but assuming equal finish, does anyone who has used both have any opinion as to which is funner and etc.

salvadore · January 4, 2013, 03:57 PM

Oh yeah, one other thing. Back in 1968 I purchased a used Walker. Does anyone know who could have made it.

mykeal · January 4, 2013, 08:23 PM

Two possibilities: Uberti and Armi San Marco. Not the only two possibilities, however. I understand Palmetto also offered one, but I've never seen one.

Funner? Impossible to answer; they're different guns, so they appeal to different tastes.

Doc Hoy · January 4, 2013, 09:07 PM

....Are really turned off by the loading lever drop on the Walkers. The Dragoon largely remedied that problem.

On the other hand, the Walker is a no nonsense emotional experience to shoot.

I think if I did not have either and wanted both, I would go for the Walker.

On the revolver you purchased some time ago, I have four examples of ASM large revolvers and I love them all.

bushmaster65 · January 4, 2013, 09:41 PM

my first was a Uberti 2nd model Dragoon this last July. Love it to death so I had to buy a Uberti Walker in August. As stated above, Both are different.
Prices are going up so if it was me I would start with the Walker.You shouldn't have to pay more than 350-400.00 to your door for a new Walker. Bought mine in August from Able Ammo here in Texas so I had to pay tax and it was exactly $401.00 to my door. Either one will suffice in getting you good and hooked on BP revolvers. Welcome to BPA! (black powders anonymous)

BirchOrr · January 4, 2013, 09:54 PM

Holy mackerel Bushmaster, you said, "Welcome to BPA" to Doc? The Doc was hooked on BP a long time ago. Don't think you realize who you were addressing there brother!

Birch

BirchOrr · January 4, 2013, 10:13 PM

... now that I have THAT off my chest, as said in all the previous posts, they both are different animals. No need to say it again. I'd take the Walker. Yep, the Dragoon has loading lever advantages. The Walker has a huge "click-boom"!

I'd never part with my Uberti/Walker. I would buy a "real" Colt/Walker reproduction in a heartbeat if... the price was right. Don't mind the loading lever drop when she's loaded to the gills with BP. I'd tape the loading lever up with painters tape if I had to.

Birch

arcticap · January 4, 2013, 11:31 PM

For me, the Walker is sort of too heavy to hold "comfortably".
I much prefer the round trigger guard of the 3rd Model Dragoon, and its weight is just a little more manageable.
And it has the more modern square notches on the cylinder instead of oval.
If I was blind folded and had to choose, I'm pretty sure that I would pick the Dragoon.
Who usually loads more than 50 grains in their Walker?
But if it's a package deal then buy both and double your fun!

Beagle333 · January 4, 2013, 11:35 PM

The old Palmetto Walkers ain't bad looking. I almost bought this one about a year ago (when this fellow bought it).

It went through a couple of times (fairly cheap) without selling, and I backed out of it right before it sold, because I got to thinkin about how hard parts would be to find/make.

He priced it up about $100 more and has had it on GB ever since, and comes down about $5 every month.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=324105404

Beagle333 · January 4, 2013, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Who usually loads more than 50 grains in their Walker?

Me!

SIGSHR · January 4, 2013, 11:53 PM

The Dragoon is my favorite BP revolver, firing it with full loads is like firing an N-frame with 38 Specials, the balance and heft are right for me. I have both,if you can get both, do so.

Doc Hoy · January 5, 2013, 11:09 AM

Actually I AM new to BP shooting. I started sometime around 1975 so I still have a lot to learn.

salvadore · January 5, 2013, 01:09 PM

Thanks folks, I guess you all are right about an emotional choice.

Doc I know you're a new guy to BP, (75?), but the one I purchased in 68' was used and I don't recall any case on the frame..long time ago to remember for sure, and you are right the amazing dropping lever was a pain in the pooper. Were repros sold in the old days without case coloring? Thanks again for all the feed back.

January 4, 2013, 03:44 PM	#1
salvadore Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Posts: 1,366	walker/dragoon My local shooter emporium has a Walker and a Dragoon..I believe 3rd model not particularly great case on either, fit on the walker may be a bit off, but assuming equal finish, does anyone who has used both have any opinion as to which is funner and etc.

January 4, 2013, 09:07 PM	#4
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,350	Some shooters.... ....Are really turned off by the loading lever drop on the Walkers. The Dragoon largely remedied that problem. On the other hand, the Walker is a no nonsense emotional experience to shoot. I think if I did not have either and wanted both, I would go for the Walker. On the revolver you purchased some time ago, I have four examples of ASM large revolvers and I love them all. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

January 4, 2013, 09:41 PM	#5
bushmaster65 Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2012 Location: Central Texas Posts: 106	my first was a Uberti 2nd model Dragoon this last July. Love it to death so I had to buy a Uberti Walker in August. As stated above, Both are different. Prices are going up so if it was me I would start with the Walker.You shouldn't have to pay more than 350-400.00 to your door for a new Walker. Bought mine in August from Able Ammo here in Texas so I had to pay tax and it was exactly $401.00 to my door. Either one will suffice in getting you good and hooked on BP revolvers. Welcome to BPA! (black powders anonymous) __________________ "Why Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave."

January 4, 2013, 09:54 PM	#6
BirchOrr Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Location: Eaton Rapids, MI Posts: 205	Holy mackerel Bushmaster, you said, "Welcome to BPA" to Doc? The Doc was hooked on BP a long time ago. Don't think you realize who you were addressing there brother! Birch __________________ “A man who opens a case in hunting camp and lifts out a single-shot BP rifle makes a statement about himself. It may be quite unconscious, or it may be pure egotistical one-upmanship, but it does project the image of a superior marksman and a hunter of above-average skills.”

January 4, 2013, 10:13 PM	#7
BirchOrr Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2012 Location: Eaton Rapids, MI Posts: 205	OK Doc... ... now that I have THAT off my chest, as said in all the previous posts, they both are different animals. No need to say it again. I'd take the Walker. Yep, the Dragoon has loading lever advantages. The Walker has a huge "click-boom"! I'd never part with my Uberti/Walker. I would buy a "real" Colt/Walker reproduction in a heartbeat if... the price was right. Don't mind the loading lever drop when she's loaded to the gills with BP. I'd tape the loading lever up with painters tape if I had to. Birch __________________ “A man who opens a case in hunting camp and lifts out a single-shot BP rifle makes a statement about himself. It may be quite unconscious, or it may be pure egotistical one-upmanship, but it does project the image of a superior marksman and a hunter of above-average skills.” Last edited by BirchOrr; January 4, 2013 at 10:15 PM. Reason: typo

January 4, 2013, 03:57 PM	#2
salvadore Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Posts: 1,366	Oh yeah, one other thing. Back in 1968 I purchased a used Walker. Does anyone know who could have made it.

January 4, 2013, 08:23 PM	#3
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,637	Two possibilities: Uberti and Armi San Marco. Not the only two possibilities, however. I understand Palmetto also offered one, but I've never seen one. Funner? Impossible to answer; they're different guns, so they appeal to different tastes.

January 4, 2013, 11:31 PM	#8
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 2,961	For me, the Walker is sort of too heavy to hold "comfortably". I much prefer the round trigger guard of the 3rd Model Dragoon, and its weight is just a little more manageable. And it has the more modern square notches on the cylinder instead of oval. If I was blind folded and had to choose, I'm pretty sure that I would pick the Dragoon. Who usually loads more than 50 grains in their Walker? But if it's a package deal then buy both and double your fun!

January 4, 2013, 11:35 PM	#9
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Back in the woods a piece Posts: 744	The old Palmetto Walkers ain't bad looking. I almost bought this one about a year ago (when this fellow bought it). It went through a couple of times (fairly cheap) without selling, and I backed out of it right before it sold, because I got to thinkin about how hard parts would be to find/make. He priced it up about $100 more and has had it on GB ever since, and comes down about $5 every month. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=324105404

January 4, 2013, 11:53 PM	#11
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 2,594	The Dragoon is my favorite BP revolver, firing it with full loads is like firing an N-frame with 38 Specials, the balance and heft are right for me. I have both,if you can get both, do so.

January 5, 2013, 11:09 AM	#12
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,350	Birch and Bush Actually I AM new to BP shooting. I started sometime around 1975 so I still have a lot to learn. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

January 5, 2013, 01:09 PM	#13
salvadore Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Posts: 1,366	Thanks folks, I guess you all are right about an emotional choice. Doc I know you're a new guy to BP, (75?), but the one I purchased in 68' was used and I don't recall any case on the frame..long time ago to remember for sure, and you are right the amazing dropping lever was a pain in the pooper. Were repros sold in the old days without case coloring? Thanks again for all the feed back.