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Old December 26, 2012, 12:05 AM   #1
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New Gift

Got a used pistol. markings are /colts patent/31 cal/trigger guard has a s/cyl has 281397 stamped on it/matter of fact every piece has the same 281397
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Old December 26, 2012, 12:13 AM   #2
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If it's a Colt Model 1849 Pocket then that's in the serial number range of having been produced in 1866.
It sure would be nice to see a photo of it.

http://www.coltparts.com/Dates_of_Mfg.html

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Old December 26, 2012, 12:42 AM   #3
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picture

I'll do my best of posting a picture tomorrow.
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Old December 26, 2012, 09:39 AM   #4
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Wow! Nice gift!
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Old December 26, 2012, 10:07 AM   #5
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Yes indeed

Great gift.
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Old December 26, 2012, 10:20 AM   #6
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pictures (i hope;o))

Did not work.Little help please.

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Old December 26, 2012, 11:21 AM   #7
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The best way to post photos....

...Is to upload them to a free phot hosting service such as Photobucket.

Then copy the link to the photos right inot the post on TFL.

Works like a champ.
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Old December 26, 2012, 11:33 AM   #8
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pictures (i hope;o))


http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e4c49ec.jpg
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/...psd26b471b.jpg
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Old December 26, 2012, 11:35 AM   #9
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Old December 26, 2012, 12:15 PM   #10
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Woooo-Hoooo beautiful!!!! I'm soooo jealous!!!
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Old December 26, 2012, 12:19 PM   #11
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cool pistol!
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Old December 26, 2012, 07:03 PM   #12
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pictures

If you look at the 3rd picture you can see some discoloration from powder i assume.How do i clean this thing up?Also need a link to tear it down.
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Old December 26, 2012, 07:43 PM   #13
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Looks like it was fairly recently nickel plated.
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Old December 26, 2012, 10:17 PM   #14
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plating

Appears to be on for some time.Dont know much about these things though.
Also what type of lubricant for the sliders ect.Mike

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Old December 27, 2012, 05:13 AM   #15
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IMNSHO

In addition to easing the projectile's travel down the barrel, lubes do three things for you in a Cap and Ball revolver.

1. Keep the pistol shooting during your day at the range by maintaining free operation of the moving parts.
2. Act to keep the fouling soft so it can be easily removed during the cleaning process.
3. In some cases (the absense of a wad under the ball) seal the chamber to prevent hot gas from the "in battery" chamber from migrating to adjacent chambers and detonating a chamber that is NOT in battery

You will get probably ten different recipes for bore lube as additional posts on this thread. Nearly everyone will recommend that you make your own rather than spend a lot of money for a commercial product which (Also IMNSHO) is inferior to what you can make. One commercially available bore lube is Thompson's Bore Butter. Some folks like it but I think it stinks both figurativley and literally. Most of the cost of manufacturing Bore Butter goes into the useless disgusting perfume they put in it. I have had a half used tube of Bore Butter in a drawer for about four years. I think I'll try it in my egg nog on Year Years eve.

I like approximately half and half Crisco and wax rings from under toilets. During the summer I use more wax ring than Crisco. Beeswax will figure heavily into some of the recipes and I am about ready to admit that it has its advantages in spite of the fact that it is expensive.

In addition to this home brew lube, I make sure to douche down the internals with Rem Oil (Walmart) after I clean the revolver to fend off corrosion and lubricate the internal mechanisms of the pistol.
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Old December 27, 2012, 05:30 AM   #16
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Regarding the "discoloration from the powder"

I don't see powder stains but if you are talking about the surface of the frame, that is case hardening and you don't want to ry to remove it.
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Old January 3, 2013, 07:19 PM   #17
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Help

Well took it to the local gun shop.Was told it is not an original but a reproduction.Like to find out for sure.
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Old January 4, 2013, 11:37 AM   #18
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Someone on here...

...will know the serial numbers of the Colt second and third gen repros and the years in which they were applied. They will also know if they were ever made in the white as your revolver appears.
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Old January 4, 2013, 11:55 AM   #19
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It's not a 2nd or 3rd gen (Sig Series). 2nd gens were all Baby Dragoons without loading lever, and Sig Series all had 4 1/2 inch barrels.

It looks like from the pictures that this is a 6 shot pistol. All the repros are 5 shot.
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Old January 4, 2013, 12:25 PM   #20
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Is there a barrel address (top of barrel)? Any writing on the inside of the grips?
Can you measure the nipple threads? Local hardware stores usually have a thread measurer.
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Old January 4, 2013, 03:49 PM   #21
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barrel/grips

nothing on the grips.
barrel says address col?s ????????new york usa america
i have a thread guage(good)
i dont have a nipple wrench(not good)

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Old January 4, 2013, 06:43 PM   #22
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this gun......

Is listed on GunBroker (same pic same serial #) for a $1200 reserve. Miket, if you know that the gun is not original, stop listing it as an antique. Gun Broker #324294396. Same pic, same gun. If I'm wrong, so be it. But its the same gun and you said your LGS said its a repro.
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Old January 4, 2013, 07:17 PM   #23
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Nice catch, North East Redneck.
What's going on, mike.t?
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Old January 4, 2013, 08:09 PM   #24
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UH OH!!!
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Old January 5, 2013, 09:35 AM   #25
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He deleted his pictures. At first I thought "scammer" but he revised his listing on GB. Awesome, my faith in humanity has just been restored
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