ring mount question

TheFineLine · December 31, 2012, 01:56 AM

I got a savage model 64 22lr for Christmas, YAY ME! My first 22. I am about to get a 3-9x40 scope for it. The cheaper ones don't come with mounting rings. Barska had better reviews than Tasco, opinions here? I am thinking this one

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Barska-CO1...Matte/15819409

When looking at the available rings they come in different styles and heights. dovetail/weaver/picatinny, low/medium/high. What would be appropriate for this scope/rifle combo? Google has not been very helpful.

NoSecondBest · December 31, 2012, 04:37 AM

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I got a savage model 64 22lr for Christmas, YAY ME! My first 22. I am about to get a 3-9x40 scope for it. The cheaper ones don't come with mounting rings. Barska had better reviews than Tasco, opinions here? I am thinking this one

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Barska-CO1...Matte/15819409

When looking at the available rings they come in different styles and heights. dovetail/weaver/picatinny, low/medium/high. What would be appropriate for this scope/rifle combo? Google has not been very helpful.

From your post I gather that you are very new to firearms. To correct you on one point, your comment about "the cheaper ones don't come with rings" is incorrect. It would imply that the more expensive scopes do come with rings and they in fact do not. I've only ever seen rings included with a scope on some very inexpensive plastic wrapped scopes in places like wal mart, etc. Your new gun is drilled and tapped from the factory. You need to get a Weaver style scope base and attach it to the receiver of the gun with the screws supplies with that base. Then you need to get some rings to attach the scope to that base. If your scope has a one inch tube, you need one inch rings. If it has a 3/4 inch tube you'd need 3/4 inch rings. If it has a 30mm tube, you'd need 30mm rings....get the idea? Rings do come in different heights. I'd suggest that with the scope you are interested in that you get medium or high height rings. Do not get low rings or the scope will not fit, the front of the scope (the objective lens) will hit the barrel. Ask for Weaver style rings when you get them. There are other types but for what you want at this time they will work very well. Don't put a lot of money into rings on this gun and scope. Weaver has been around for a long time and they are more than strong enough and capable enough for what you are trying to do. Good luck and be safe.

TheFineLine · December 31, 2012, 11:41 AM

Not new to firearms, just new to mounting optics. There are slits cut into the top sides of the receiver. On all of the google images showing a mounted scope it appears that the ring base attaches right onto those slits. I don't think I need a scope base. So it IS a weaver mount, and I'll need medium to high rings?

NoSecondBest · December 31, 2012, 11:52 AM

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Not new to firearms, just new to mounting optics. There are slits cut into the top sides of the receiver. On all of the google images showing a mounted scope it appears that the ring base attaches right onto those slits. I don't think I need a scope base. So it IS a weaver mount, and I'll need medium to high rings?

I looked at Savage's website after reading your post. They listed all configurations of your gun as being drilled and tapped for a scope mount. If you can see a grooved receiver then it will take different rings. They make rings for this type of mounting system. Just make sure you get the rings made for dovetails and not a standard Weaver base. Curious how the website states "drilled and tapped" but I can't argue with what you have in front of you.

TheFineLine · December 31, 2012, 12:39 PM

It does have a couple of small holes in the top of the receiver, just like my lever action, so it IS drilled and tapped, but it also has those long slits.

I can't find any great pics online showing the slits very well but this gives you an idea.

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...lectedIndex=17

So it's dovetail rings that I need. Thanks NoSecondBest.

sc928porsche · January 1, 2013, 12:17 PM

You will need rings for the grooved 22. you will also have to make sure that they are for 1" tube. Medium height rings. I have a 3-9x40 scope mounted on my daughters mod 64. I got my rings through Amazon on line.

TheFineLine · January 1, 2013, 09:35 PM

Thanks 928! Just ordered it.

Doyle · January 2, 2013, 09:45 AM

As to your choice of scopes, run - don't walk - away from Barska, BSA, Tasco, NCStar, and the lowest end Bushnells. Invest a few more dollars in a scope you can be proud of.

sc928porsche · January 2, 2013, 01:02 PM

No need to put a 300-500 dollar scope on a 22 unless you are using it to compete in benchrest. 22 is usually used at 100 yds or less.

If you have an Anshutz or such, then a high quality scope would apply. You would also want a little more power than 9 to view your strikes.

Doyle · January 2, 2013, 01:44 PM

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No need to put a 300-500 dollar scope on a 22 unless you are using it to compete in benchrest

I agree whole heartedly, however there is a world of options out there between the high-dollar scopes and the bottom-of-the-barrel junk he was originally thinking of. You can get a nice Nikon Prostaff for about $150. The Weaver rimfire scopes run about the same.

TheFineLine · January 2, 2013, 06:54 PM

Again thanks for your input guys.

I did buy the cheapo scope. Compared to the others in the <$50 range it had the best reviews. Hardly any negatives. I'm putting it on a $130 rifle so I didn't think it'd justify a higher priced scope. I will use this mostly for poking holes in paper and a little plinking now and then. Assuming its another 3-9x40 (will probably buy a more powerful scope if I can't see the impacts at 50 and 100 yards), what will I get out of a scope that's 2-3 times more expensive? (Not being a smartass, I really don't know)

WyMark · January 2, 2013, 10:25 PM

These are the rings I put on my 10/22, I like being able to see the iron sights if I want.

http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-1-Inch-...er+scope+rings

Also bought the $30 Bushnel scope from Walmart for it, then got a Tasco a few days later as a Christmas gift. Both are 3-9x40 but the Tasco is better so now I have a spare Bushnell.

Doyle · January 3, 2013, 09:26 AM

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I'm putting it on a $130 rifle so I didn't think it'd justify a higher priced scope.

Rule of thumb is that a scope should cost roughly the same or even a little more than the rifle. As to more powerful scope to see the hits -don't do it. Never try to make a rifle scope do the job of a spotting scope. You size your rifle scope to be able to clearly see the target at the range you are shooting. Then, you use a spotting scope to see the hits.

December 31, 2012, 01:56 AM	#1
TheFineLine Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Location: TX Posts: 45	ring mount question I got a savage model 64 22lr for Christmas, YAY ME! My first 22. I am about to get a 3-9x40 scope for it. The cheaper ones don't come with mounting rings. Barska had better reviews than Tasco, opinions here? I am thinking this one http://www.walmart.com/ip/Barska-CO1...Matte/15819409 When looking at the available rings they come in different styles and heights. dovetail/weaver/picatinny, low/medium/high. What would be appropriate for this scope/rifle combo? Google has not been very helpful.

January 1, 2013, 12:17 PM	#6
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,325	You will need rings for the grooved 22. you will also have to make sure that they are for 1" tube. Medium height rings. I have a 3-9x40 scope mounted on my daughters mod 64. I got my rings through Amazon on line. __________________ No such thing as a stupid question. What is stupid is not asking it.

January 2, 2013, 01:02 PM	#9
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,325	No need to put a 300-500 dollar scope on a 22 unless you are using it to compete in benchrest. 22 is usually used at 100 yds or less. If you have an Anshutz or such, then a high quality scope would apply. You would also want a little more power than 9 to view your strikes. __________________ No such thing as a stupid question. What is stupid is not asking it.

December 31, 2012, 11:41 AM	#3
TheFineLine Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Location: TX Posts: 45	Not new to firearms, just new to mounting optics. There are slits cut into the top sides of the receiver. On all of the google images showing a mounted scope it appears that the ring base attaches right onto those slits. I don't think I need a scope base. So it IS a weaver mount, and I'll need medium to high rings?

December 31, 2012, 12:39 PM	#5
TheFineLine Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Location: TX Posts: 45	It does have a couple of small holes in the top of the receiver, just like my lever action, so it IS drilled and tapped, but it also has those long slits. I can't find any great pics online showing the slits very well but this gives you an idea. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...lectedIndex=17 So it's dovetail rings that I need. Thanks NoSecondBest.

January 1, 2013, 09:35 PM	#7
TheFineLine Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Location: TX Posts: 45	Thanks 928! Just ordered it.

January 2, 2013, 09:45 AM	#8
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Bradenton, Fl Posts: 4,131	As to your choice of scopes, run - don't walk - away from Barska, BSA, Tasco, NCStar, and the lowest end Bushnells. Invest a few more dollars in a scope you can be proud of.

January 2, 2013, 06:54 PM	#11
TheFineLine Member Join Date: January 9, 2012 Location: TX Posts: 45	Again thanks for your input guys. I did buy the cheapo scope. Compared to the others in the <$50 range it had the best reviews. Hardly any negatives. I'm putting it on a $130 rifle so I didn't think it'd justify a higher priced scope. I will use this mostly for poking holes in paper and a little plinking now and then. Assuming its another 3-9x40 (will probably buy a more powerful scope if I can't see the impacts at 50 and 100 yards), what will I get out of a scope that's 2-3 times more expensive? (Not being a smartass, I really don't know)

January 2, 2013, 10:25 PM	#12
WyMark Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Posts: 134	These are the rings I put on my 10/22, I like being able to see the iron sights if I want. http://www.amazon.com/Weaver-1-Inch-...er+scope+rings Also bought the $30 Bushnel scope from Walmart for it, then got a Tasco a few days later as a Christmas gift. Both are 3-9x40 but the Tasco is better so now I have a spare Bushnell.