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Old December 30, 2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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Can I reload this ammo?

S m new to this and I have ordered the Abc's of reloading and another reloading book, but I'm really curious so here I am... Have been saving brass that has been fired at my local range (free) and I have a much larger abundance of 7.62 X 39/54 and would like to reload it, but I'm not sure if its safe/ I can/ worth it...

What I can tell you, both are magnetic. The 7.62 X 39 is wolf ammo and most appears like a olive green. The 7.62 X 54r is hard to tell what brand but its 3 symbols/ letters "6M3" or "GM3" this brass almost appears copper in color? Looks super strong and most is n great shape.

So until my books show up and I can get my feet wet, should these be saved in m reloading bin or should I put these in a scrap steel bin?

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Tell me if photos are to small or to big, it's hard to tell as I'm on my iPad and apple seems to auto correct everything...
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Old December 30, 2012, 10:18 PM   #2
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To be honest, I do not reload any steel (magnetic) case ammunition.
Hard on sizing dies and usually has a varnish-like protective coating.
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Old December 30, 2012, 10:24 PM   #3
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You can, if you really try. But I wouldn't. Reloading steel casings is just not worth the effort.

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Old December 30, 2012, 10:32 PM   #4
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Besides being steel, they probably are Berdan primed, which makes them difficult to deprime and they take an uncommon primer. Look inside the case at the flash hole. You want to see one central hole, that's Boxer primed, which is what over 99 percent of reloaders use. If you see two smaller holes, that's Berdan.
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Old December 30, 2012, 10:39 PM   #5
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They're all right. There's a reason the cases you have don't get picked up by anyone else. Steel and varnish, bad for your dies, bad for your gun. And nobody likes berdan primers. Stick to brass and save yourself some big headaches.
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Old December 30, 2012, 10:40 PM   #6
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Thanks guys, scrap it is...

I understand the whole boxer vs Berdan primers, I don't have my reloading bench completely built yet with a good light to inspect them.
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Old December 30, 2012, 11:13 PM   #7
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I understand the whole boxer vs Berdan primers, I don't have my reloading bench completely built yet with a good light to inspect them.
Hacksaw the head off one each and look for the double flash holes.
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Old December 30, 2012, 11:14 PM   #8
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Iirc Wolf is boxer primed, but reloading steel is fairly pointless. I sold my AK for that reason.
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Old December 31, 2012, 01:04 AM   #9
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I might try the polyformance stuff if I was in a real bind for brass.

I wouldn't think of running the green laquered stuff into any of my sizing dies. But that's just my thought on the matter. YMMV
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Old December 31, 2012, 04:39 PM   #10
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Hacksaw the head off one each and look for the double flash holes.
Yea I get the difference.
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Old December 31, 2012, 04:41 PM   #11
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I might try the polyformance stuff if I was in a real bind for brass.

I wouldn't think of running the green laquered stuff into any of my sizing dies. But that's just my thought on the matter. YMMV
I was curious what that exterior coating was... It definitely protects the round, probably to much for our benefit...
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Old December 31, 2012, 04:50 PM   #12
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The coating on the cases is lacquer. It helps to keep them from rusting, and from getting condensation if stored in a Russian warehouse in Siberia. (Slightly joking on that.)

When reloading for a rifle. If you are unsure put it up to a magnet. If it sticks to the magnet get rid of it. As has been said yes it can be reloaded. At the cost of being a pain in the butt, and wearing out a sizing die. As well as having a high chance of splitting when it is fired.
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Old December 31, 2012, 04:59 PM   #13
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Steel cased factory ammo is cheap for a reason.
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Old December 31, 2012, 05:01 PM   #14
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To bad scrap steel is only going for $.09 a lb.... I would sell it to the yard if it were a little higher.
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Old December 31, 2012, 05:02 PM   #15
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The green cases are the cheapest cases on the market and definately not worth reloading, actually you may want to stay away from those things all together. Then again if you're using 7.62x39 and x54(I assume it's an AK and a Drugonov), it may not matter much since they are not known for their accuracy.

If you are using Wolf ammo, I don't see how you're going to save money by reloading. That ammo is pretty inexpensive.

My DPMS manual said that using the lacquer (green coated) cases would void my warranty and cause problems with my rifle. Apparently the heat caused by the firing causes some of the lacquer to adhere to the rifle and it is very difficult to remove even with solvents. Sure enough after a couple hundred rounds my extractor broke.
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Old January 1, 2013, 04:32 PM   #16
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All steel cases should be considered non-reloadable.

Any lacquered or polymer-coated case should be considered non-reloadable.



As for a comment above -
All Wolf steel cases that I have seen have been Berdan primed. I have never seen a boxer-primed Wolf steel case. (Or Tula, or Tulammo, etc.)



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To bad scrap steel is only going for $.09 a lb.... I would sell it to the yard if it were a little higher.
That's quite good, comparatively. Around here, steel hovers around $65/ton ($0.0325/lb), and was as low as $35/ton just a few years ago. The only places that pay better (up to $160/ton) only take industrial scrap. So, for the average Joe, it cost more money to drive to the scrap yard, than you got out of the material. All of the minorities' trucks running around with "Free Scrap Metal Removal" on them, suddenly got repainted to "Tree Trimming and Sprinkler Repair" for a while.
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Old January 1, 2013, 05:43 PM   #17
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Scraping/recycle

If you have the room for it, save the stuff in a bucket or pail.

I have a scrap pile for each type of metal that I come across. Each pile by itself is not worth my time to recycle, but when I take them to the scrap yard, I usually come home with a few hundred dollars. (Taking just the brass or aluminum is not worth my time. Taking brass, aluminum and the steel is what I mean.)


Now thinking about it, I need to put a scrap barrel down at the range. I'll have to keep track of how much I collect.
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