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Old January 7, 2013, 08:47 AM   #1
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444 MARLIN

Hello all just ordered my 444 and i am going to reload for it . Any suggestions and recipes will be appreciated. Will be using hunters hard cast bullets 330gr. I just bought them to try for my 44mag.
Both guns are hr handi rifles
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Old January 7, 2013, 09:27 AM   #2
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My only recommendation when using lead bullets, is to make sure the gun isn't a micro groove barrel. They are a lot easier to lead up, even if your velocities are low, because lead is that much softer then copper.
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Old January 7, 2013, 09:34 AM   #3
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thank you i believe they are regular grove 1in 20
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Old January 7, 2013, 09:59 AM   #4
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With a very long straight-sided case as the .444, it is a little tricky to get the correct amount of case lube on the case. Too much always will result in lube dents in the case walls. While they blow back out when shooting and are not a danger factor, they can be unsightly and frustrating.
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Old January 7, 2013, 12:45 PM   #5
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I use varget powder in mine
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Old January 7, 2013, 03:14 PM   #6
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When I loaded for one it was pretty straight forward, just make sure you don't use the levereveloution brass unless you have a load for it. It is quite a bit shorter.

I liked IMR 4198 but I was only loading a 270 grain bullet.


What are you going to be hunting with it? That's a pretty heavy bullet.
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Old January 7, 2013, 04:25 PM   #7
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H4198 and RL7 should be the powders of choice for a 330 gr bullet, if you want to drive them at full velocity.

It is likely to have a barrel in the neighborhood of 0.427"-bore / 0.432"-groove. So, .433" cast bullets are preferred, but .432s can work in a pinch (with some lead removal, afterward).

One thing to watch out for, is the short throat. Standard .444 Marlin chambers only have a 0.050"-long throat (+0.015" / -0.000"). That means you need a crimp groove right below the ogive, to keep the bullet's nose out of the rifling; and you can't use some wide-flat-nose bullets, unless they're deep-seated in the case.

Quite a few common bullets, designed for the .44 Mag, don't work well in .444 Marlin. (that's one of the reasons that many bullets in the 265 to 330 gr weight bracket have 2 or 3 crimp grooves - one or two for .44 Mag, and one for .444 Marlin)

The Hunter's Supply 330 gr FP has a reduced-diameter nose, so it should work alright. The body diameter might result in some leading, though.



Cerberus - the Marlington H&R .444s all have 4-groove, ballard-rifled, 1:20" twist barrels. Micro-grooves aren't a worry, and the twist rate will stabilize bullets in excess of 450 gr (at 1,200+ fps).
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Old January 7, 2013, 08:45 PM   #8
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Ramshot X-Terminator does a good job in mine under Hornady 265gr FP or 300gr XTP bullets.

The 330gr bullet is a heavyweight for starting out. Keep in mind it is taking up more of the case volume since you can't leave a whole lot sticking out the end.

If they're sized at .432" a MG barrel would probably shoot them as well as a Ballard barrel.
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Old January 7, 2013, 08:51 PM   #9
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Here is a copy of Ranch Dog's load notes for his 350gr mold. Understand these are pressure and velocity predictions using Quickload and not actual pressure tested data.

Ranch Dog Load Notes
Hope this helps!
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Old January 7, 2013, 11:09 PM   #10
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Thank you these are very helpfully. I am working on a load for large boar 500+ will try to find. Larger diamater bullet
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Old January 8, 2013, 01:47 AM   #11
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Ramshot X-Terminator does a good job in mine under Hornady 265gr FP or 300gr XTP bullets.
I forgot about X-Terminator.

I bought some to try in .444 Marlin, and ended up loading most of it in .223 Rem.
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Old January 8, 2013, 03:10 AM   #12
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I forgot about X-Terminator.

I bought some to try in .444 Marlin, and ended up loading most of it in .223 Rem.
What problems did you have with it in the .444?
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Old January 8, 2013, 08:47 AM   #13
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has anyone used h322 i found a couple of loads off beartooth using it and have some . any problems?
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Old January 8, 2013, 06:21 PM   #14
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What problems did you have with it in the .444?
The only problem I have had, is that I loaded almost all of it in .223.
I don't think I have enough left to load up a full box of .444 Marlin.
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That I can understand.
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