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Old December 20, 2012, 05:38 PM   #1
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Would that do away with sizing wax?

I'm new to reloading having done less than a thousand rounds. I'm only doing .308 ammo (for accuracy) and I'm using the Redding Competion dies. I use Imperial sizing wax and it works really well. I also happen to have a rifle that has NP3 coating. That got me thinking (a dangerous thing, I know): If they can coat a whole rifle white not a sizing die.

Has anyone here tried to coat sizing dies with an electroless nickel-based finish for steel that co-deposits sub-micron particles of PTFE (polytetrafluoroethylene), otherwise known as Teflon, with electroless nickel?

Would that do away with sizing wax?
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Old December 20, 2012, 06:24 PM   #2
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NO! Most of the problem with rifle cases sticking in dies is caused by them being tapered. Any time you force a tapered metal object into a tapered hole, it tends to seize up. That's what keeps the flywheel on your lawn mower engine tight. (The nut just holds it there).

The lube prevents that lock-up from happening.
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Old December 20, 2012, 08:40 PM   #3
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Snuffy is correct. Dillon sells solid carbide rifle dies for .223 and .308; the cases have to be lubed or they'll stick.
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Old December 20, 2012, 08:47 PM   #4
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The only thing I believe would possibly size a bottle neck without lube would be titanium. Titanium is naturally slick. Since no one makes the dies out of it, I guess I wont find out any time soon.
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Old December 20, 2012, 09:03 PM   #5
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au contraire



Still it's not slick enough for rifle cases.

http://www.redding-reloading.com/ind...tanium-carbide
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Old December 20, 2012, 09:06 PM   #6
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Maybe they will start making them in rifle dies soon.
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Old December 20, 2012, 10:21 PM   #7
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Quote:
Teflon
Teflon® is a registered trademark.
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Old December 20, 2012, 11:19 PM   #8
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That's all interesting guys, but I guess no one has tried an electroless nickel-based finish yet? Or if they did it didn't work?

Maybe we need to ask Redding or one of the other die manufacturers? Let's all do it.
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