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Old December 3, 2012, 12:22 PM   #1
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discoveries... while hanging the rifles on the wall in my walk in gun safe

have had a good portion of my rifles in a storage crate for a long time ( until I finally got my "walk in gun safe room" built... now I'm seeing a couple holes...

I have a bolt action rifle collection that covers most bases, from 17 Mach 2, up to a custom bolt action 53 caliber rifle... ( 15 rifles on this rack space )... currently have 2-30-06's to fill out the rack, but the birdseye maple 70's custom is going onto a different rack... the biggest hole in the calibers I see, is between my sporterized 7 X 57 Mauser, & my 30-06... my 1st 2 thoughts are 7 Mag, & .308 ( I have other .308 rifles, just not in a "conventional" bolt action )... I know there are a couple other cool cartridges that fall in between

sugestions for a rifle to fill that gap ???
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Old December 3, 2012, 12:33 PM   #2
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Yes, you definitely need a 7mm rem. mag. You may want to look at a .280 rem. It is definitely not cool to have such large gaps in your gun collection!
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Old December 3, 2012, 12:38 PM   #3
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I know... I'm really sweating it right now...

... 280 is one I was thinking of... not that familiar with it, don't know if they still chamber guns in the caliber, or if used is the only answer...

I do prefer stainless & laminate or composite for my heaviely "used" guns... but love the look of alot of my older blued & walnut Remington 700's
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Old December 3, 2012, 01:32 PM   #4
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280 Remington is a 30-06 necked down to 7mm. Ammo is still available from most sources. As for a new rifle purchase in that chambering, you will have to check MFG's lists. You could also check your local pawn shops and small gun shops for a used one.
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Old December 3, 2012, 02:19 PM   #5
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Looks like Ruger ( in more everyday price ranges ) & Blazer in prices I can't afford, still make, or made guns in the last couple years, where there are still new ones listed on the auction sites... I've been doing some reading, & seems like a nice cartridge...
my jump from '06 goes to 338 Win Mag, then 375 H&H, then .416 Rigby... so I'm open to either belted or non belted cartridges

my jump from .416 Rigby ( bear in mind, we are talking only bolt actions ) goes to a custom 53 caliber... a 45-70 might be good ( though I have 5-6 guns chambered in 45-70... maybe .458 Win Mag ???

I don't really have a problem with a gap from 7 X 57 to 30-06 so I have a couple options
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Old December 3, 2012, 03:14 PM   #6
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7x57- 30-06* I agree, a 280 would fit just fine. Maybe a fine old 300 Savage?
416- 53 cal* hows about a nice 404 Jeffries? A 444 Marlin? 458 American? 500-450 #2? 500 Jeffries? 50 BMG?
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Old December 3, 2012, 03:41 PM   #7
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not a whole lot of 444 Marlin bolt guns ( though my buddy built one, I bet I could talk him out of ??? ) I'd love to have a BMG... but honestly where I live, there probably are people who own them in the county, but IMO, there is no safe place to shoot one around here... certainly not on my 300 yard range

got room for one more bolt action... ( I don't need to fill that spot right away ) just giving some thought to that one more, for down the road...

I probably have a milsurp 8mm that may already be sporterized to the point that it belongs in this section ??? but I think it's a BRNO, so it will go on another wall with the Czech guns

right now calibers represented are...

17 Mach 2
17 Fireball
22 Hornet ( fast twist )
223
22-250
243
25-06
.270
7 X 57
30-06
338 Win Mag
375 H&H
.416 Rigby
53 caliber ( 53 is based on 28 ga. brass shells... certainly not as powerful as the other big bores, but still fun to shoot )

hmmm... maybe a 458 Win Mag would be the best fit ???
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Old December 3, 2012, 04:17 PM   #8
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280 AI an a 325 wsm an a 50 bmg
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Old December 3, 2012, 04:44 PM   #9
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You need a 280 Ackley really bad! If not, I don't see a 270 on that list either.
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Old December 3, 2012, 04:47 PM   #10
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Rebarrel the Brno to 280 Ackley and the world will be a better place.
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Old December 3, 2012, 04:48 PM   #11
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Oops... yep forgot the .270...

so how about pros & cons between 7 mm Magnum, & 280 Remington, & the AI ??? ( can just slip a .280 in an improved chamber )

( yes, I understand you don't need a belt to get good performance... love everything about the 416 Rigby, but ammo / component prices ) so I'm ok that the 280 is beltless
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Old December 3, 2012, 04:48 PM   #12
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Old December 3, 2012, 05:01 PM   #13
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Magnum wheel Man, I'm afraid we're starting a war here, but my take is if I'm going to get kicked 7 Mag style, I move up to the 300's and get kicked a little more.
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Old December 3, 2012, 05:03 PM   #14
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Rebarrel the Brno to 280 Ackley and the world will be a better place.
errr... well I went partially that route... built a 1000 yard rifle in 6.5 X 284... but that's going on a different rack, as it's pretty long
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Old December 3, 2012, 05:05 PM   #15
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340... I got no problem with the kicking ( 338, 375, 416 ) & a 300 Mag could be an option as well, under the 30-06
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Old December 3, 2012, 06:24 PM   #16
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Be WEIRD and DIS the .280 Rem. and go for a .284 Win. instead. Then, if you don't like it, you can neck it down to 6.5-.284 for your other rifle!

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Old December 3, 2012, 06:53 PM   #17
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At the tail end of your collection I would recommend a .458 Lott or .505 Gibbs.
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Old December 3, 2012, 07:00 PM   #18
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And no one mentions the 35 Whelen Ackley Improved? the 35 Whackley.
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Old December 3, 2012, 10:24 PM   #19
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Get a 7mm-08 and throw the rest of the collection away, you won't use it anymore anyway.
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Old December 3, 2012, 11:18 PM   #20
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340 Weatherby said
" Magnum wheel Man, I'm afraid we're starting a war here, but my take is if I'm going to get kicked 7 Mag style, I move up to the 300's and get kicked a little more."

A big +1 to that.
Also +1 to the .270, 7mm-08 comments--you have one of those and you're set for 95%...And I agree you're definitely missing .35 Whelen, one of the often overlooked non-mags over .30-06. Future classic if not already there. You could have one of the .22_'s, a 7mm-08 and .300 Win Mag and be done with it for anything in the lower 48. (Or, I would agree, you could just have your already listed time-honored .30-06, but since we're indulging ourselves here with multiple choices )

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Old December 4, 2012, 06:50 AM   #21
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35 Whelen is also a chambering I was thinking about... thanks for all the suggestions
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Old December 4, 2012, 08:32 PM   #22
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Better bullets available for the 338-06 over the 35 Whelen. But I think for a guy hunting Black bears from a stand. a 35 Whelen is a great cartridge.
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Old December 4, 2012, 09:29 PM   #23
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If you have gaps in your gun collection, I have giant caverns... each his own.
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Old December 4, 2012, 10:42 PM   #24
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You've got the .257Roberts or Weatherby in some ocnfiruration I hope. I watched a nice one go in a recent auction. The winner left before the ammo came up for bid though.
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Old December 4, 2012, 10:54 PM   #25
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What is the intended purpose of these rifle to hunt with, or just use the range? If the rifles are just to shoot I did find some pleasurable cartridges the play with. One that comes to mind is the 7-30 Waters, I would find an old Savage 340 in .30-30 and rebarrel it.


With your 7X57 and .270 I see no need for a 7mm RM or .280/.280 AI. If you want a bigger rifle and since you like M700 try and locate a 700 Classic in .300 H&H or 8X57. Another two interesting cartridges to me are the .358 Win and 9.3X62 and if I could find one reasonable a .45-70 built on a Siamese bolt action rifle.
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