"Ghost-ring" sights. Aperture diameter?

Pond, James Pond · December 15, 2012, 05:54 AM

Thinking of buying a piece of stainless steel sheet and, from it, cutting a rear "ghost-ring" sight, using my existing rear sight as a template.

The gun is a Ruger Redhawk 4.2" with adjustable rear sights.

What aperture should I drill out for these to work on my gun, in your opinion?

In case you are thinking "Why?", the answer is "Why not?!"

CajunBass · December 15, 2012, 06:53 AM

I can't help you with the diameter, but I had a Hi-Point 9mm that had a ghost ring rear sight in the box. I put it on, and I liked it. It seemed to work just as well, if not better than the conventional sight that came on the gun. I never really thought too much about it. It just worked. The theory that you don't "see" the rear sight apparently is right.

Japle · December 15, 2012, 06:03 PM

This has been tried many times. The "ghost ring" works on rifles, because it's close to the eye. On a handgun, it just becomes another rear sight, except that there's no way to precisely line it up with the front sight.

My advice; don't waste your time.

Axelwik · December 15, 2012, 07:42 PM

I have "one ragged hole" sights on two of my Rugers; my 6" GP-100 is pretty accurate with 3-4" groups at 50 yards.

They work well.

The apertures are pretty large compared to those on my rifles.

mete · December 15, 2012, 08:05 PM

The ghost ring must be close to the eye to function properly --LONG GUNS only.
For rifle or handgun the front sight should be about 1/8" square post and the ring aperture 1/8" to 3/16" .The ring should be thin so as not to be obvious and block the view.
These sights are fast and accurate !

Axelwik · December 15, 2012, 10:51 PM

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The ghost ring must be close to the eye to function properly --LONG GUNS only.
For rifle or handgun the front sight should be about 1/8" square post and the ring aperture 1/8" to 3/16" .The ring should be thin so as not to be obvious and block the view.
These sights are fast and accurate !

I hold the ones on my wheel guns at arms length and they work just fine.

CajunBass · December 16, 2012, 07:19 AM

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The ghost ring must be close to the eye to function properly

I'm glad I didn't know that back when I was shooting the one I had. I thought they were working just fine.

Learn something new every day.

Pond, James Pond · December 16, 2012, 08:37 AM

I've already bought a thin strip of steel: 0.8mm

It cost about €1.50.

The rest, assuming I have the right drill bits (5 or 5.5mm, and 7mm) is just my time.

With only about 5hrs of daylight, I'll have plenty of spare time indoors over the next month!!

We'll see!

mete · December 16, 2012, 09:11 PM

You guys have obviously missed the whole idea of the ghost ring !

It's not that it can't "work" but the accuracy and speed will not be there.Ghost ring takes advantage of how the eye works.

The best handgun sight is the Patridge .Before he designed a sight Patridge asked a number of eye doctors how does the eye work. It was novel to get info before designing !!

The Patridge can also be used on rifles and is very good for that.

jmortimer · December 16, 2012, 09:17 PM

This may give you some ideas for your project.

http://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/ohs-ruger.html

Lot of bad mojo out there for "One Ragged Hole" - went out of business and allegedly burned many people from I have seen.

December 15, 2012, 05:54 AM	#1
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 1,705	"Ghost-ring" sights. Aperture diameter? Thinking of buying a piece of stainless steel sheet and, from it, cutting a rear "ghost-ring" sight, using my existing rear sight as a template. The gun is a Ruger Redhawk 4.2" with adjustable rear sights. What aperture should I drill out for these to work on my gun, in your opinion? In case you are thinking "Why?", the answer is "Why not?!" __________________ You cannot wake someone who is pretending to sleep. Stop pretending. Wake up. Doubt: ...it's the only thing I'm sure of... -Marsupials: Nature's idea of Concealed-Carry-

December 15, 2012, 06:53 AM	#2
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: Chancellorsville, Virginia Posts: 3,130	I can't help you with the diameter, but I had a Hi-Point 9mm that had a ghost ring rear sight in the box. I put it on, and I liked it. It seemed to work just as well, if not better than the conventional sight that came on the gun. I never really thought too much about it. It just worked. The theory that you don't "see" the rear sight apparently is right. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

December 15, 2012, 08:05 PM	#5
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 4,944	The ghost ring must be close to the eye to function properly --LONG GUNS only. For rifle or handgun the front sight should be about 1/8" square post and the ring aperture 1/8" to 3/16" .The ring should be thin so as not to be obvious and block the view. These sights are fast and accurate ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

December 16, 2012, 08:37 AM	#8
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 1,705	I've already bought a thin strip of steel: 0.8mm It cost about €1.50. The rest, assuming I have the right drill bits (5 or 5.5mm, and 7mm) is just my time. With only about 5hrs of daylight, I'll have plenty of spare time indoors over the next month!! We'll see! __________________ You cannot wake someone who is pretending to sleep. Stop pretending. Wake up. Doubt: ...it's the only thing I'm sure of... -Marsupials: Nature's idea of Concealed-Carry-

December 16, 2012, 09:11 PM	#9
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 4,944	You guys have obviously missed the whole idea of the ghost ring ! It's not that it can't "work" but the accuracy and speed will not be there.Ghost ring takes advantage of how the eye works. The best handgun sight is the Patridge .Before he designed a sight Patridge asked a number of eye doctors how does the eye work. It was novel to get info before designing !! The Patridge can also be used on rifles and is very good for that. __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

December 15, 2012, 06:03 PM	#3
Japle Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: Viera, Florida Posts: 1,128	This has been tried many times. The "ghost ring" works on rifles, because it's close to the eye. On a handgun, it just becomes another rear sight, except that there's no way to precisely line it up with the front sight. My advice; don't waste your time.

December 15, 2012, 07:42 PM	#4
Axelwik Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2012 Location: Land of Enchantment Posts: 202	I have "one ragged hole" sights on two of my Rugers; my 6" GP-100 is pretty accurate with 3-4" groups at 50 yards. They work well. The apertures are pretty large compared to those on my rifles.

December 16, 2012, 09:17 PM	#10
jmortimer Junior member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: South West Riverside County California Posts: 2,765	This may give you some ideas for your project. http://www.warrencustomoutdoor.com/ohs-ruger.html Lot of bad mojo out there for "One Ragged Hole" - went out of business and allegedly burned many people from I have seen.