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Old December 17, 2012, 02:26 PM   #1
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Should high-capacity ammunition magazines for rifles be banned?

Newspaper Poll.

Should high-capacity ammunition magazines for rifles be banned?

http://online.wsj.com/community/grou...gazines-rifles

Lets let them know what we think boys.

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Old December 17, 2012, 02:31 PM   #2
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What's a "high-capacity magazine?" Mine came only with standard 20-rounders.

I do have a couple 30 rounders but TBQH, they are extremely undependable, half the time they don't even stay seated and fall out
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Old December 17, 2012, 02:35 PM   #3
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Whether it's 20 or 30 is not the point.
Should the government be banning magazines of any size?

Put another way, would banning hi cap magazines have stopped the shooting on Friday?
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Old December 17, 2012, 02:39 PM   #4
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This, scumbag, shooter could have used a bolt action, lever action rifle or even a revolver. He had a helpless bunch of people.
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Old December 17, 2012, 02:42 PM   #5
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Put another way, would banning hi cap magazines have stopped the shooting on Friday?
Doubtful - it doesn't take long to reload and as Shotgun pointed out, the shooter wasn't facing any resistance.
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Old December 17, 2012, 02:53 PM   #6
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I would caution against posting duplicate threads in multiple forums, as it is against forum rules.
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Old December 17, 2012, 04:17 PM   #7
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Doesn't really matter if they should be banned or not, at this point it seems fairly inevitable.
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Old December 17, 2012, 04:56 PM   #8
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I'm going to catch a lot of flak for this but I think had he not had hi capacity magazines he would not have killed the number he did. To suggest otherwise is to simply bury our heads in the sand, exactly as the anti's portray us every chance they get. You can argue that one man's actions shouldn't ruin it for everyone, but it's hard to refute that hi capacity magazines made this worse.

This was a terrible tragedy, and our position is not one easily defended on this issue.
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Old December 17, 2012, 05:05 PM   #9
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WyMark with that attitude you are correct. Lets hope and pray most other americans dont think like you. As a responsible gun owner and believer in the constitution people should be doing everything they can to stop this kneejerk response by our leader and his drones.

Hardworker I think you are flat wrong. It doesnt take alot of gray matter to quickly change a empty 5 or 10rd magazine for a loaded one. I can do it in a few seconds. So can most people. There wasnt anyone to stop him between mag changes like the Gabriel Giffords shooter was stopped. He could have done that much damage with a bolt action, lever action or even a single shot if he was a motivated shooter. Never underestimate a psychopath.

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Old December 17, 2012, 06:04 PM   #10
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Should high-capacity ammunition magazines for rifles be banned?
Really? On a pro-gun forum you would ask such a question?

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Whether it's 20 or 30 is not the point.
Should the government be banning magazines of any size?
Actually, you are the one who posed the size question, so stipulating number of rounds is a salient point relative to capacity.

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Doesn't really matter if they should be banned or not, at this point it seems fairly inevitable.
Defeatism? It is a bit early to be throwing in the towel and going belly up isn't it?
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Old December 17, 2012, 06:11 PM   #11
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It's not the gun or the magazines fault,it's our society and our morales that's the problem. So my answer is NO ban on high capacity magazines.

We've had semi automatic rifles in our country for decades along with high capacity magazines and until now we haven't seen these types of senseless acts of pure evil carnage,where human life means nothing?

I blame our violent society with the violent video games, vulgar violent music,movies,and the media that place these scum bag nuts on a pedestal for their suicide/killing numbers???

Once again it's not the gun or the magazines fault,it's what our society's producing that's the problem.
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Old December 17, 2012, 06:39 PM   #12
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hardworker: You are definitely incorrect. If ONLY 10 rounders existed, reloading the magazine is easy, especially against an unarmed populace. Not to mention he would just carry more magazines with less bullets than less magazines with more bullets. Well what about a fixed magazine? Everyone forgets about this thing called stripper clips. He could have had 1 magazine and 100 bullets on strippers and it would have literally been the same outcome. Maybe would should ban strippers, or only sell bullets individually, or not let poor people buy firearms since they are more likely to commit such acts?

Do you not see the inherent fallacy? They made detachable magazines illegal in Cali, and the market come out with the bullet button.


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Old December 17, 2012, 06:51 PM   #13
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If hi-cap mags are no better than regular 10 shot mags or lever guns, why does anyone buy them? Because they make it easier to lay down a lot of bullets in a short amount of time. They have a distinct tactical advantage, that's why everyone (LE, military) uses them and not 10 rounders and lever guns.

I'm not saying ban them, I even bought a few earlier this year in anticipation of the ban, but the logical side of me can't act as if they don't go hand in hand with this type of event.

I'm a gun owner, and enjoy shooting guns, but the simple fact is that guns were made for killing. If we can't even admit that, we're going to lose legitimacy as a group and become known as a group of deniers who watch everyone else write the laws.
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Old December 17, 2012, 06:58 PM   #14
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It isn't a hot button issue with me.

When I target shoot or hunt, I use a ten round magazine.

Overseas, I had 30 round magazines but got ahold of a bunch of old 20 round magazines because it was easier to lay down and shoot and the shorter magazine didn't get caught on things so easily.

It isn't going to stop an idiot from shooting helpless people. What will do that is someone who is armed or several someones who have the guts and coordination to charge while the @%$**&% is changing magazines.
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Old December 17, 2012, 07:05 PM   #15
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" I would caution against posting duplicate threads in multiple forums, as it is against forum rules."

That it is, and closed for that reason.

The thread in Law and Civil Rights that remains open is here:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=509247
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