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Old September 11, 2012, 02:16 PM   #1
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38 smith & wesson special ctg serial number s864498

I am no gun expert and I am trying to find out what I can about a 38 smith & wesson special ctg serial number s864498. any help would be appreciated... the model, year and rough range on value... thank you in advance for your assistance
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Old September 11, 2012, 02:22 PM   #2
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A picture would sure help,,,

A picture would sure help,,,
Hard to tell you anything about what we can't see.

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Old September 11, 2012, 02:55 PM   #3
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here are pictures of the gun
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Old September 11, 2012, 02:59 PM   #4
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Try this:

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbu...Date-a-S-amp-W
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Old September 11, 2012, 03:05 PM   #5
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when the cylinder is open the number listed there does noes not include the same sn as on the but of the gun it has Y and these numbers below it 32829
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Old September 11, 2012, 03:14 PM   #6
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The "Y" number in the open cylinder crane are assembly numbers,,,
The Serial number is what is on the butt of the grips.

You seem to have a S&W M&P (Military and Police) chambered for .38 Special cartridges.

After 1957 S&W started using Model numbers for their guns,,,
The M&P became the Model 10 at that time.

There are several different iterations of your gun,,,
I'm not expert enough to detail those for you.

Suffice it to say you have a vintage handgun that should shoot modern ammo just fine,,,
Avoid shooting any .38 Special ammo labeled "+P" in your gun,,,
Regular .38 special ammo should be just fine.

I hope that helps,,,

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Old September 11, 2012, 03:19 PM   #7
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It is a S&W Military and Police made shortly after WWII. The "S" indicates that it has the improved hammer block developed after an AD from a dropped revolver on a Navy vessel killed a crewman in 1945.

The number under the crane is a company fitting number to keep parts together in the factory. It has no meaning after the gun has been completed and a serial number applied.

I won't guess a dollar value. It won't be extremely high, these are common guns and yours has a lot of flaws in the finish. On the other hand, the Magna grips from this period are worth a bit of money themselves and add to the value of the gun if they are numbered to match - in pencil on the inside.
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Old September 11, 2012, 04:10 PM   #8
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Thank you all very much...
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Old September 11, 2012, 10:56 PM   #9
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And, for future reference, it's not a CTG, that's an abbreviation for "Cartridge" as part of the caliber stamping.
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Old September 12, 2012, 06:02 PM   #10
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CTG is abbreviation for cartridge? Whoa, James K. told me it meant Custom Tooled Gun, was he yanking my chain?
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Old September 12, 2012, 06:16 PM   #11
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number s864498.
It's a 38 Military & Police (postwar).
Serial numbers ran from S811120 in 1945 to S999999 in 1948.

Became the model 10 when S&W began assigning model numbers ~1957

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Old December 10, 2012, 04:15 PM   #12
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.38 special

Hey guys. I followed the link to try and decipher my dad's .38 S&W ctg but couldn't make heads or tails of it. I was hoping to see if any of you could help. The serial number on the butt is 591827 with 3994 written below it. I don't have the gun at this time so I couldn't tell you if there is a number when the cylinder is open. Thanks for any help
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Old December 10, 2012, 04:49 PM   #13
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I am no gun expert and I am trying to find out what I can about a 38 smith & wesson special ctg serial number s864498. any help would be appreciated... the model, year and rough range on value... thank you in advance for your assistance
Hi,
According to my S&W book you have M&P 1905 4th change. The serial number means the revolver was between 1940 to 1945. Unless you pay for a letter from S&W you won't know the exact production year. S&W made better than a million of them from 1915-to around 1945. The value is around $300. They are not rare. Yours is a shooter grade.
Hope this helps.
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Old December 11, 2012, 02:06 AM   #14
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Mf,
Again- CTG is part of the caliber stamping, it's not a model designation.
Your revolver shoots the .38 S&W Cartridge, which is not the same as the .38 S&W Special Cartridge.
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Old December 11, 2012, 02:53 AM   #15
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I highly recommend the guy from the link posted above....I have used the request for which is provided at the end of the page(you can just click on the blue wording 'request form' in the paragraph). I believe it was $50 after the price raise. I got two pages back official letterhead and signed...it is nice to have with a firearm, and it will give you all the details down to even when and where it was up for sale originally.
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Old December 11, 2012, 07:39 AM   #16
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"Whoa, James K. told me it meant Custom Tooled Gun, was he yanking my chain?"

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