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Old December 7, 2012, 11:56 AM   #1
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Nikon m223 rifle scope

Anyone have any experience using the Nikon m223 3-12 power?
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Old December 7, 2012, 11:44 PM   #2
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My dad has it on his setup. I am getting a p-223 because i love his m-223 so much.
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Old December 8, 2012, 08:47 AM   #3
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I have that scope and it's pretty good overall. I have the version with the target turrets. I like counting clicks more than using BDC indicators on the reticle, and the Nikon version looks pretty cluttered to me. The parallax side focus knob does not correlate with its yardage marks. I forget offhand but I think that an actual 100 yard distance works best with the parallax set at 75 yards. You have to work with it to figure it out.

The knobs are nice, distinct clicks and I think it tracks just fine, I use mine at 500 meters most of the time and it's easily up to that task.

The major downside is that the glass in not as good as it should be. It's noticeably "foggier" than the Burris scope it replaced and one of my shooting pals went with a Vortex Viper (not the PST version) at about the same time I went with the Nikon and the Viper kills the Nikon.

The Nikon is a usable scope but I will never buy one again. I'll admit that I have Viper envy.
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Old December 8, 2012, 02:02 PM   #4
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I have one; the only thing I don't like about it is that the circles on the reticle are way too big for shooting at 400 and 500 yards. Other than that the glass is good on it and the zero has always been repeatable.

If you're on a limited budget, the P-223 is a good deal. The P and M series appear to have the same tube just different quality glass.
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Old December 8, 2012, 03:06 PM   #5
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The parallax side focus knob does not correlate with its yardage marks. I forget offhand but I think that an actual 100 yard distance works best with the parallax set at 75 yards.
I've seen very few side focus/adjustable objectives where the yardage markers are actually correct, which is at least one reason a lot of high end optics don't even put yardage markings on their side focus dials. Best way to use side focus is to disregard the markings, start at infinity, and then dial until things are clear and focused.
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Old December 8, 2012, 05:34 PM   #6
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1+ to what scov509 said. I also haven't seen a scope where the yardage markers were right on. I am not even sure if they would be for everyone anyway not everyone's eyes focus the same way, if they did there would be no need for focus knobs on anything......
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Old December 8, 2012, 11:21 PM   #7
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I have one and I like it. Nice glass for the price. I also own a Vortex scope.. cant really tell any difference.
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Old December 10, 2012, 12:03 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the info. I went ahead and purchased the m223 3-12 power. Im happy with the scope, good glass and extremly easy to zero in. Only regret I have is getting the scope with the bdc reticles. As mentioned before there to big to use out to 400-500 yards, and they also seem clutter the view some what.
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Old December 10, 2012, 10:43 AM   #9
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Nikon M-223 3-12

S., I"ve been using one since they first came out. Love em! Built on the MONARCH platform these scopes are very clear and offer excellent light tranmission for early morning or late evening shooting. I've even unloaded a few rounds at Tx. hogs with just moonlight.

I have both the BDC 600 reticle and the Rapid Action Turret which is calibrated for the shooter to use a 55 gr. polymer tipped bullet at 3240 fps. M.V.
I have taken both scopes out to 600 yard on a couple of occasion's along with friends who were amazed they could connect on target at that distance. There is a new for 2012 M-223 4-16 as well, if you are looking for even more magnification?

http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/...2233-12rat.jpg
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Old December 10, 2012, 11:24 PM   #10
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I have the exact scope. I'm also running the exact amo, poly tip 55 grain with 3,240 fps. The amo matches the scopes set up. My ar isn't set up for a scope that needs to have more magnification. Running a Rock river, w a 16" barrel and 1x9 twist. So it's not really set up for long distance, the scope is awesome it does exactly what it said to do. I'm just not a fan of the BDC reticles, I would rather just count my clicks for a dead on hold, and not have the BDC in my view. The BDC does not bother me or make me not want to run this scope, just stating that I'm not a fan.
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Old December 12, 2012, 08:44 AM   #11
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3240 FPS out of 16" barrel?
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Old December 12, 2012, 09:00 AM   #12
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Ya that's the velocity on the box, through a 24 inch barrel i bet
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Old December 12, 2012, 09:41 AM   #13
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3240 fps

I chronographed 4 different ammo's about 2 years ago. All were rated at 3240 fps and most of my results were in the 3000 fps average from my 16 inch bull barrel. Roughly 7% less then the 26 in. barrel used for factory testing. At the time I was only able to shoot to 200 yards and with my 100 yard zero still managed a sub 2 inch group at 200 yards. I have at numerous other times shot my Nikon M-223 3-12 Rapid Action Turret scope and rifle combo to 600 yards with consistant hits on 10 inch steel plates. There's even been a few coyote's out there who would agree this combo works well together.
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Old December 12, 2012, 11:57 AM   #14
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What bman stated. I only went off of what the box read. I'm aware that it might not actually be 3,240 fps, but it's the closest amo I found to fit the scopes set up.
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