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Old December 2, 2012, 09:36 PM   #1
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22LR Ammo Shootout - Kidd10/22 -- CZ452 -- Savage MarkII TR

Day1 Review consisted of a newly built Kidd 10/22 Customized platform and a CZ452 Varmint both shot at 50 yards with various ammo trying to determine which brand each likes.
http://www.dayattherange.com/?p=2384

Day2 Consisted of the Kidd 10/22 Customized platform, CZ452 and this time I brought along a Savage MarkII TR. Each were shot at 100yards with various ammunition from the bench utilizing front and rear sand bag rest.
http://www.dayattherange.com/?p=2554

I know it is not the most scientific but I was able to achieve my goal in determining which ammo I need to keep around for each platform. I also had a ton of fun and after the testing shot at some remaining clay birds someone had left around.

Stop over and tell me what you think, leave comments.
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Old December 2, 2012, 11:49 PM   #2
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I have that same CZ. It likes CCI Velociters & 36gn Mini mags and Eley Target. The Velociters and Eley won out at 50 (not by much)the MM's took it at 100yds so that's what I shoot now.

I've tried a couple of the ones on your list but not your top performers. They would be worth a try, if they're not to expensive. Great write up thanks.
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Old December 3, 2012, 02:46 PM   #3
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I don't know if I should be surprised or not that the CZ shoots those velocitors correctly because they avg 1435fps. Typically in general Supersonic ammunition is not as accurate.
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Old December 3, 2012, 02:58 PM   #4
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Yeap, I've heard that too. If it makes you feel any better the velociters opened up like a shot gun blast at 100yds. No, I don't have an answer, It goes against what I think. I have repeated several times the 50 yd groups but I only put 10 rounds apiece at the 100. More testing? maybe.
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Old December 3, 2012, 03:23 PM   #5
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Sounds like fun! I love ammo testing with the 22s! I usually include CCI Green Tag and Federal Gold Medal match as standards, they always shoot among the best.
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Old December 3, 2012, 03:29 PM   #6
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My CZs like Dynapoint.

I used to have a 10/22 with the Kidd trigger. It was very good, but I just never warmed up to it the way I did to the CZs.

When I see a 10/22, I see a wad of parts, like an AR. When I see a CZ, I see a rifle.
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Old December 3, 2012, 04:12 PM   #7
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Darn good professional writeup . One thing I may have missed, How many throw away between changeing ammo labels before shooting for group size. I found it can take 20 to 25 rounds fire to stabize to a new ammo label. Shoot blaser after wolf and those first 10 rounds maybe very tight , then it start to open to normal size groups. Also changeing lots can make great below average. Suprised the savage was not a better shooter. How many rounds thru that rifle total, new rifle?. Kidd and cz are kinda a standard of great shooters. Good job. Some of federal gold match is loaded by RWS so it may have been tested after all tested.
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Old December 3, 2012, 09:09 PM   #8
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Thank you --- Before shooting for groups I shot 10 fouling shots. So if I were switching to Wolf Target, I would shoot 10 rounds of Wolf Target and then using the exact same ammo shoot for group.


I too was a little surprised by the Savage. The Savage has about 200 rounds through it so far. I truly believe it was my issue as I had got use to shooting 1lb triggers all day then the last rifle I shoot has a 3.5lb trigger.

Quote form the article just fyi

I received many emails from the Day1 testing about the cleaning procedure and fouling shots between brands of ammunition. This time between each groupings of shots a bore snake lubricated with frog lube was pulled through the bore twice. Then 10 fouling shots were fired with the exact same ammunition before firing the official 5 shot grouping.
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Old December 4, 2012, 11:31 AM   #9
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My savage took a good 500 rounds to settle down on the fliers. Wished I had tried some tubb final finsh ammo on it. I have the trigger down to right at 1lb but not a good trigger . Kinda mushy. Rifle basix in the future . It shoots better, well tighter average than yours but it took a while to get there. And I have 6-24 scope to help too.

I have a home brewed 10/22, an older 10lb + rifle , 20" kidd barrel , boyds stock, some kidd reciever small parts, jard 1lb trigger and blocked a bedded. Shoots like your kidd when I have a good day and the same 6-24 scope. Last pile of wolf I bought was not as good. Thats the way rimfire seems to go.
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Old December 4, 2012, 12:31 PM   #10
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That is good news to hear about the Savage.

What 6-24 scope are you using?

Do you have the tool needed to adjust the trigger. Unfortunately mine is now misplaced may have to call Savage.
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Old December 5, 2012, 02:47 PM   #11
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Tools for me at that time I had one diamond files so used some 1000 and 1500 grit wet dry paper wet with breakfree clp as a wet and a old ss scapper as a back up for the paper. A set of small screw drives will let find the right one for me adjust the rear spring for tension. Lost my little tool also.

This is the basic info I used to tune my trigger. There also some newer to me video about prestageing the accublade and loading it on the sear then pulling bottom of the trigger and get a lighter pull yet, low 5 or 6 oz. Got to try that yet.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...ger+lightening

Scope, Don't laught !! I bought one of these for my 10/22 when prices were lower but not at this price and found over time it work very well and order a second for the savage when the close out first started about a 1+ ago. Don't know if midways has any left in close out or not. But a couple have showed on ebay.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/962...m_vc=CyberMon2
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