Anyone Have One of These?

deerslayer303 · January 18, 2013, 04:33 PM

This shotgun was given to me by my father years ago, it was given to him by someone he worked with. Its a YL-12 12ga. Eagle 96 Made in China. Its a pump action bottom eject. 19" smooth bore barrel, cyl. choke. It has become my go to slug gun. Its shoots Win, and Rem rifled slugs VERY well. I've pretty much by trial and error learned how to take it down. I was just wondering if any of you have seen one of these or could offer anymore info on it. It was imported by Intrac Arms Knox. TN. Its gotta be a clone of something.

Microgunner · January 18, 2013, 04:47 PM

I think it's a copy of an Ithaca 37.

alex0535 · January 18, 2013, 07:50 PM

If it didn't have the rail and high front sight it would look a bit like an FN Herstal 12 gauge we have.

CaptainChaos · January 19, 2013, 09:40 AM

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I think it's a copy of an Ithaca 37.

That's what *I* thought.

Regards,

Mark.

Dfariswheel · January 19, 2013, 09:02 PM

These were fairly close (but not exact) copies of the Ithaca Model 37.
Most parts will likely not interchange with a real Ithaca.

The early guns were frankly, pretty crude and roughly made internally, and you'd see some parts that were way too soft and wore fast. Later, quality did improve.

deerslayer303 · January 19, 2013, 09:53 PM

I have no idea when it was made. The parts on the inside are kind of roughly finished. But it hasn't broke.............yet. Probably inevitable though. But for a freebie I'll run it till it breaks. It has the same kind of take down screws as that other Ithaca 37 I saw on here. They are on both sides of the receiver towards the rear. Its a flat head screw (kind of cut out 4 places around the head) with another tiny flat head screw to lock it in place. I don't know what these are for. Could someone give me some insight. I know I didn't explain that right so I may have to take a pic.

deerslayer303 · January 19, 2013, 10:07 PM

This little do dad right here. The one on top.

barnbwt · January 19, 2013, 10:29 PM

Fiddling with the M37 that I picked up today (old PD beater with the slam-fire trigger

) I find that moving the carrier arms up/down wiggles that screw a bit; my guess is it is the pivot for the shell carrier.

That shotgun you have is, according to Wikipedia, single-handedly responsible for the M37's fall from preeminence in America.

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Interestingly, Ithaca's loss of market share was hastened by competition from a copy of the shotgun. Chinese copies of the Ithaca 37 have been imported recently

So, it's all your fault

TCB

deerslayer303 · January 20, 2013, 12:00 AM

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That shotgun you have is, according to Wikipedia, single-handedly responsible for the M37's fall from preeminence in America.

Dang CHINESE!!! I never really would have thought someone would buy this over a true Ithaca. But then again the price of these were probably stupid cheap. Then I turn around and buy a Pardner Protector (<<<made in china) which is a loose copy of an 870 as far as I can tell. Man I'm batting a thousand ain't I??

okiewita40 · January 20, 2013, 01:28 AM

Deerslayer don't beat your self up too bad on the china guns. I just got a rock island armory 12 ga pump. It was made in the Phillipines.

Scorch · January 20, 2013, 03:18 AM

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It has the same kind of take down screws as that other Ithaca 37 I saw on here. They are on both sides of the receiver towards the rear. Its a flat head screw (kind of cut out 4 places around the head) with another tiny flat head screw to lock it in place. I don't know what these are for.

Well, if you don't know what they're for, it's always a good idea to leave things alone.

The two screws in question are not takedown screws or anything of that sort. They are the pivot screws for the carrier. If you get them too tight, you won't be able to cycle the action. So unless you know how to properly adjust them, leave them alone. From the looks of it, the previous owner also used cheap screwdrivers in all of the slots to try to "fix sumpthin" that wasn't wrong with the gun. Get a disassembly manual and get to know the workings of your new shotgun.

CaptainChaos · January 20, 2013, 03:35 AM

The bottom screw in that last photo is the trigger plate screw. Do *not* undo it without taking the stock off *first*. (That's probably why it's a bit damaged - the stock pulls on the end of the trigger plate and, hence, makes the trigger plate screw very tight if the stock isn't taken off first.)

Read this before you take it apart:

stevespages.com/pdf/ithaca_3787.pdf

Regards,

Mark.

deerslayer303 · January 20, 2013, 12:22 PM

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Well, if you don't know what they're for, it's always a good idea to leave things alone.

You're Absolutely right, hence the WHOLE POINT of this post is to LEARN what they are for. And if I could find an assembly manual for a hand me down shotgun that was imported with probably minimal after the sale support I would gladly read it. But thank you for the parent like chastising.

Captainchaos,

Thank you for the link and info.

January 18, 2013, 04:33 PM	#1
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: McMinnville TN Posts: 1,116	Anyone Have One of These? This shotgun was given to me by my father years ago, it was given to him by someone he worked with. Its a YL-12 12ga. Eagle 96 Made in China. Its a pump action bottom eject. 19" smooth bore barrel, cyl. choke. It has become my go to slug gun. Its shoots Win, and Rem rifled slugs VERY well. I've pretty much by trial and error learned how to take it down. I was just wondering if any of you have seen one of these or could offer anymore info on it. It was imported by Intrac Arms Knox. TN. Its gotta be a clone of something. __________________ "You're so drunk you cant hit nothin, In fact you're probably seeing double"...."I have TWO GUNS one for each of ya"

January 18, 2013, 04:47 PM	#2
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,491	I think it's a copy of an Ithaca 37. __________________ NRA Endowment Member

January 19, 2013, 09:53 PM	#6
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: McMinnville TN Posts: 1,116	I have no idea when it was made. The parts on the inside are kind of roughly finished. But it hasn't broke.............yet. Probably inevitable though. But for a freebie I'll run it till it breaks. It has the same kind of take down screws as that other Ithaca 37 I saw on here. They are on both sides of the receiver towards the rear. Its a flat head screw (kind of cut out 4 places around the head) with another tiny flat head screw to lock it in place. I don't know what these are for. Could someone give me some insight. I know I didn't explain that right so I may have to take a pic. __________________ "You're so drunk you cant hit nothin, In fact you're probably seeing double"...."I have TWO GUNS one for each of ya"

January 19, 2013, 10:07 PM	#7
deerslayer303 Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2011 Location: McMinnville TN Posts: 1,116	This little do dad right here. The one on top. __________________ "You're so drunk you cant hit nothin, In fact you're probably seeing double"...."I have TWO GUNS one for each of ya"

January 20, 2013, 01:28 AM	#10
okiewita40 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 347	Deerslayer don't beat your self up too bad on the china guns. I just got a rock island armory 12 ga pump. It was made in the Phillipines. __________________ What on god's green earth do you think your doing?

January 18, 2013, 07:50 PM	#3
alex0535 Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 618	If it didn't have the rail and high front sight it would look a bit like an FN Herstal 12 gauge we have.

January 19, 2013, 09:02 PM	#5
Dfariswheel Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2001 Posts: 6,575	These were fairly close (but not exact) copies of the Ithaca Model 37. Most parts will likely not interchange with a real Ithaca. The early guns were frankly, pretty crude and roughly made internally, and you'd see some parts that were way too soft and wore fast. Later, quality did improve.

January 20, 2013, 03:35 AM	#12
CaptainChaos Junior Member Join Date: November 8, 2011 Posts: 9	The bottom screw in that last photo is the trigger plate screw. Do not undo it without taking the stock off first. (That's probably why it's a bit damaged - the stock pulls on the end of the trigger plate and, hence, makes the trigger plate screw very tight if the stock isn't taken off first.) Read this before you take it apart: stevespages.com/pdf/ithaca_3787.pdf Regards, Mark.