Shell ID?

basic.right · December 3, 2012, 08:57 PM

I have an empty brass shell that I need some help identifying; can anybody tell me what this is (caliber, nationality, history)? Diameter is ~1 1/16" at the base of the rim and ~5/8" at the mouth. Thanks in advance.

sgms · December 3, 2012, 09:27 PM

Kinda guessing here but kinda looks like a 14.5 x 113 m/m Egyptian.

jonnyc · December 3, 2012, 09:44 PM

The numbers are 14,5 03 87. The factory number 03 has appeared on Iraqi 7.62x39 and x54R ammo, so I would go with Iraqi production in 1987.

Mike40-11 · December 3, 2012, 09:47 PM

I don't know about the headstamp but from the dimensions it looks like a 14.5×114mm Russian case. Started out in PTRS and PTRD anti-tank rifles during WWII. Later used in other heavy machine guns including ZPU anti-aircraft guns and on BTR APCs.

A scaled down version of the PTRS became the SKS.

December 3, 2012, 09:27 PM	#2
sgms Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2010 Location: Arizona or Ohio depending Posts: 649	Kinda guessing here but kinda looks like a 14.5 x 113 m/m Egyptian.

December 3, 2012, 09:44 PM	#3
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 681	The numbers are 14,5 03 87. The factory number 03 has appeared on Iraqi 7.62x39 and x54R ammo, so I would go with Iraqi production in 1987.

December 3, 2012, 09:47 PM	#4
Mike40-11 Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 767	I don't know about the headstamp but from the dimensions it looks like a 14.5×114mm Russian case. Started out in PTRS and PTRD anti-tank rifles during WWII. Later used in other heavy machine guns including ZPU anti-aircraft guns and on BTR APCs. A scaled down version of the PTRS became the SKS.