The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Hide > The Art of the Rifle: Bolt, Lever, and Pump Action

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old December 16, 2012, 05:38 PM   #1
terzmo
Member
 
Join Date: December 16, 2012
Posts: 59
300 win

bought a model 99 in 300 win(only see 300 mag) and would like a source for ammo and what grain bullet is best for deer...I currently use a 220 grain in a 30.06. Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays
terzmo is offline  
Old December 16, 2012, 06:55 PM   #2
taylorce1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 18, 2005
Location: On the Santa Fe Trail
Posts: 5,379
If you bought a Savage 99 then it can only be a .30-30 Win, .300 Savage or a .308 Win if it is a .30 caliber. I'd go look at the rifle again and take a look at the stamp to make sure. You'll never get a .300 Magnum of any kind to feed through that rifle.
__________________
NRA Life Member
The Truth About Guns
taylorce1 is online now  
Old December 16, 2012, 09:42 PM   #3
jmr40
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 15, 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,807
And you'll be better off with almost anything but the 220 gr bullets for deer. Something in a 150-165 gr would be a much better choice in any of those chamberings.
jmr40 is offline  
Old December 16, 2012, 09:47 PM   #4
big al hunter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 12, 2011
Location: Washington state
Posts: 924
The savage model 99 was chambered in 300 savage. That is most likely what you have. Check the gun again. If I were you I would use 150 gr bullets.

I would also try 150 or 165 gr in the 30-06.
__________________
You can't fix stupid....however ignorance can be cured through education!
big al hunter is offline  
Old December 16, 2012, 10:36 PM   #5
terzmo
Member
 
Join Date: December 16, 2012
Posts: 59
yes..it takes 300 savage..thanks....and I'll stay with the 220 in the 06
terzmo is offline  
Old December 17, 2012, 02:49 AM   #6
Scorch
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 13, 2006
Location: Washington state
Posts: 11,408
I don't know of a deer anywhere in the world that needs a 220 gr bullet from a 30-06. The 300 Savage with a 150 gr bullet will kill deer just fine, up to and including moose.
__________________
Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs.
But what do I know?
Summit Arms Services
Taylor Machine
Scorch is online now  
Old December 17, 2012, 06:34 AM   #7
pabuckslayer08
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 18, 2010
Location: South Central Pa
Posts: 692
Id setup that 06 with a 150 and go with a 180 in the 300. 220 is way to heavy in those rifles for any type of long long shot. They are super slow, but they do hit hard but the lighter bullets I found work far superior to the heavier ones
pabuckslayer08 is offline  
Old December 17, 2012, 09:13 AM   #8
taylorce1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 18, 2005
Location: On the Santa Fe Trail
Posts: 5,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by pabuckslayer08
Id setup that 06 with a 150 and go with a 180 in the 300.
Might want to flip that around on the bullet weights the 06 is much better at launching 180 grain bullets than the .300 Savage that his rifle is actually chambered in, not .300 Winchester.
__________________
NRA Life Member
The Truth About Guns
taylorce1 is online now  
Old December 17, 2012, 11:46 AM   #9
kraigwy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 16, 2008
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 9,369
There is nothing at all wrong with the 30 cal 220 gr bullet for short range hunting.

The bullet would actually be a good round to about 200 yards.

They wont come apart, yet they will penetrate quite well and do what damage is necessary. If you go to FMJ 220 Pills they well kill anything on this earth.

I've been playing with my 30-40 Krag and chose the 220 grn bullet @ 2000 FPS and my go to round. The sights of the Krag are designed for this round & velocity.

If sighted in for 175 yards, it will be 6 inches low at 225 and 3.6 inches high at 100 yards. Thats well within the 10-11 inch vital area of a deer size animal.

I just finished reading (again) Young's Book "Alaska-Yukon Trophy's Won and Lost.(great book by the way) where they hunted the Alaska Yukon area in the early 1900s. One of the hunters carried a 30-40 and was used to down bear when hunters with other rifles wounded the animals.

The 220 gr solids also were used sucessfully penitrating the thick skulls of elephants in the later haydays of ivory hunting.

220 gn bullets aren't long range target rounds, but are highly effective at short ranges on just about any medium or large game you choose to peruse.

So to the OP, if you like your 220 pills, and they work in your stile of hunting, then by all means use them.
__________________
Kraig Stuart
CPT USAR Ret
USAMU Sniper School Oct '78
Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071
kraigwy is offline  
Old December 17, 2012, 03:39 PM   #10
Strafer Gott
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 12, 2011
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 1,119
I think you have touched upon why the 30-40 Krag has a reputation for killing power far beyond the paper ballistics. The bullet just doesn't stop, and is going to get through the vitals. Two drains are better than one on most critters, too.
Strafer Gott is offline  
Old December 26, 2012, 02:37 PM   #11
terzmo
Member
 
Join Date: December 16, 2012
Posts: 59
took a nice 8pt with the 220 grain...30.06....nice lung shot...probably was dead on impact but ran about 75 yards before dropping...realy tore the lung and inners up...haven't fired the model 99 yet....but the previous owner just came over and gave Me a very old cleaning kit contained in a cylinder...looks like a big road flare...faded sticker states...."outers laboratories..Onalaska Wis."...stock number 600-1 .30 cal
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IM001774.JPG (107.5 KB, 14 views)
terzmo is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.07994 seconds with 10 queries