Which of these 3 ?

TheGoldenState · December 2, 2012, 10:00 PM

I am contemplating my next gun and am seemingly down to three that i'm most interested in.

1- M&P 9 Pro Series (I have the M&P .40 and it's top 2 favorite)
2- CZ 75 b (I've never even shot one, but the reviews and capabilities have me interested).
3- FNX .45 Tactical (again, much the same as the CZ)

keeping in mind this would/could be for a duty/carry weapon at some point in the near future; which would you go with……..and WHY?

CWKahrFan · December 2, 2012, 10:21 PM

I'm just going to put in a word for paying a lot of attention to weight if you're going to be carrying it...

Check the exact models you're looking at but I think they run something like this ballpark unloaded:

FN - 22 oz.
M&P - 26 oz.
CZ - 35 oz.

The CZ75 is great but I wouldn't want to lug one around much... Unless you could find a SP01 Phantom Polymer which runs around 28 oz... That would help, but I think they're kinda rare: (click)

http://czcustom.com/01158czsp01phantom.aspx

There's also the P07 Duty which runs somewhere around 27 oz.:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/58053

TheGoldenState · December 2, 2012, 10:50 PM

Hey thanks for the info.

I agree on wanting to be as light as possible.

While I love the M&P platform, I want to get away from the .40

From what I hear the CZ is a terrible hard gun to obtain as well.

asdfw456 · December 2, 2012, 11:00 PM

M&P 9 Pro Series.It is of high quality.

TheGoldenState · December 2, 2012, 11:17 PM

Lots of CZ votes.

Reasons?

sigarms228 · December 2, 2012, 11:18 PM

From the list I voted M&P Pro but I also suggest you hande a Walther PPQ if you can find one.

Pukindog12 · December 3, 2012, 12:33 AM

Or a Walther P99 AS.

loose_holster_dan · December 3, 2012, 09:03 AM

fnx only because you want to carry it. that's a lot of 45 at your disposal.

if it's just a shooter or for home defense, the cz has my vote.

Zhillsauditor · December 3, 2012, 09:46 AM

I voted CZ. I've not shot the other two, but have shot a standard M&P. I was assuming that this would be a duty gun, so concealment is less a factor. The weight is an issue, so a CZ compact might be better. However, You sould decide on whether you want a DAO, SAO or a DA/SA gun first. If DA/SA is good for you, then the CZ all the way.

tahunua001 · December 3, 2012, 12:21 PM

one must wonder how you came down to these three as they all have virtually nothing in common.

if I'm not mistaken the CZ75B is a steel framed 9mm DA/SA design.
the FNX is a polymermer framed 45ACP DA/SA design and
the M&P is a polymer framed 40 cal stiker fired design. none of these weapons are very closely matched to begin with and then all separate are given the murky the water a little.

I would take the FNX over the others but that's almost solely personal preference. no matter the choice you will have a fine duty piece.

dgludwig · December 3, 2012, 01:30 PM

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one must wonder how you came down to these three as they all have virtually nothing in common.

True-it's a comparison between apples, potatoes and watermelons. That said, I'd opt for the CZ because it fits my hand best and mine has proven to be completely reliable. On the other hand, I've had little experience with the other two candidates but, from what I know about them, they would probably make excellent choices too.

chris in va · December 3, 2012, 09:26 PM

The CZ P01 would be more in line with the guns listed in the poll.

BTW, do you actually have a choice of duty pistols?

10-96 · December 3, 2012, 10:37 PM

You said "Duty/Carry Weapon"- have you checked with your potential agency to see which one's are (or not) on their approved list?

Me? I have CZ's and had a FNP9 (haven't managed to bring home a M&P yet). If the decision were mine, I honestly think I would carry a CZ75BD over my issued Sig P229. And for the sake of your question- I would go with the CZ (if allowed).

TheGoldenState · December 3, 2012, 11:59 PM

96- I have, they are.

Apples&Oranges- I have all the variations (sa/sa-da/da/striker) already, and am comfortable with either. Can also change out simply by qualifying.

I really want to shoot the CZ and FNX

Constantine · December 4, 2012, 05:36 PM

The slide on the CZ is way too little for me. To grab that when clearing a malfunction, would aggravate me when they're better options for duty.

I voted FNX .45

zombieslayer · December 4, 2012, 06:09 PM

I voted CZ. I've never had any problems with any CZ.
But if I were open carrying a service-sized pistol, I'd go with either a P99AS or a PPQ.

NYPD13 · December 4, 2012, 10:05 PM

For Carry I say go with what you know, the S&W M&P series. Otherwise for a collection I always grab something of a different design and learn a new platform.

X_shooter · December 7, 2012, 09:11 PM

I voted FNX. I have handled the M&P and FNX and prefer the weight, feel, and controls of the FNX. Something about the CZ doesn't appeal to me. I should give it a fair review though when I get a chance. The FNX is on my short list.

wstein · December 8, 2012, 08:51 AM

I agree with NYPD. Duty carry, go with a platform that you are already familiar with.

Davkul · December 8, 2012, 02:00 PM

I recently bought a CZ P-07 and I love it! The grip is perfect and I have hands on the larger size, its not too heavy, holds 16 rounds and shoots amazingly. I especially like that it is hammer fired and has a decocker. That was a determining factor when I narrowed down my search to the M&P9 and the P-07. I held both and shot them both and the P-07 came out on top.

View Poll Results: Which One?
M&P 9 Pro Series	27	29.03%
CZ 75b	45	48.39%
FNX .45 Tactical	21	22.58%
Voters: 93. You may not vote on this poll

December 2, 2012, 10:00 PM	#1
TheGoldenState Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2010 Posts: 1,186	Which of these 3 ? I am contemplating my next gun and am seemingly down to three that i'm most interested in. 1- M&P 9 Pro Series (I have the M&P .40 and it's top 2 favorite) 2- CZ 75 b (I've never even shot one, but the reviews and capabilities have me interested). 3- FNX .45 Tactical (again, much the same as the CZ) keeping in mind this would/could be for a duty/carry weapon at some point in the near future; which would you go with……..and WHY? __________________ The Day You Get Comfortable Is The Day You Get Careless...

December 2, 2012, 10:21 PM	#2
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 1,507	I'm just going to put in a word for paying a lot of attention to weight if you're going to be carrying it... Check the exact models you're looking at but I think they run something like this ballpark unloaded: FN - 22 oz. M&P - 26 oz. CZ - 35 oz. The CZ75 is great but I wouldn't want to lug one around much... Unless you could find a SP01 Phantom Polymer which runs around 28 oz... That would help, but I think they're kinda rare: (click) http://czcustom.com/01158czsp01phantom.aspx There's also the P07 Duty which runs somewhere around 27 oz.: http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/58053 __________________ IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! Last edited by CWKahrFan; December 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM.

December 2, 2012, 10:50 PM	#3
TheGoldenState Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2010 Posts: 1,186	Hey thanks for the info. I agree on wanting to be as light as possible. While I love the M&P platform, I want to get away from the .40 From what I hear the CZ is a terrible hard gun to obtain as well. __________________ The Day You Get Comfortable Is The Day You Get Careless...

December 2, 2012, 11:17 PM	#5
TheGoldenState Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2010 Posts: 1,186	Lots of CZ votes. Reasons? __________________ The Day You Get Comfortable Is The Day You Get Careless...

December 2, 2012, 11:00 PM	#4
asdfw456 Junior Member Join Date: December 17, 2011 Posts: 7	M&P 9 Pro Series.It is of high quality.

December 2, 2012, 11:18 PM	#6
sigarms228 Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2011 Posts: 416	From the list I voted M&P Pro but I also suggest you hande a Walther PPQ if you can find one.

December 3, 2012, 12:33 AM	#7
Pukindog12 Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2011 Posts: 117	Or a Walther P99 AS.

December 3, 2012, 09:03 AM	#8
loose_holster_dan Senior Member Join Date: April 5, 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 2,061	fnx only because you want to carry it. that's a lot of 45 at your disposal. if it's just a shooter or for home defense, the cz has my vote. __________________ Favorite range gun for the money - CZ 75B or STI Spartan V 9mm Go-to carry setup - Walther PPS or PPQ in FIST kydex holster 1AK Favorite .22LR - Browning Buckmark "A Sig is like a lightsaber - not as clumsy or random as a Glock."

December 3, 2012, 09:46 AM	#9
Zhillsauditor Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2008 Posts: 584	I voted CZ. I've not shot the other two, but have shot a standard M&P. I was assuming that this would be a duty gun, so concealment is less a factor. The weight is an issue, so a CZ compact might be better. However, You sould decide on whether you want a DAO, SAO or a DA/SA gun first. If DA/SA is good for you, then the CZ all the way.

December 3, 2012, 12:21 PM	#10
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 3,633	one must wonder how you came down to these three as they all have virtually nothing in common. if I'm not mistaken the CZ75B is a steel framed 9mm DA/SA design. the FNX is a polymermer framed 45ACP DA/SA design and the M&P is a polymer framed 40 cal stiker fired design. none of these weapons are very closely matched to begin with and then all separate are given the murky the water a little. I would take the FNX over the others but that's almost solely personal preference. no matter the choice you will have a fine duty piece. __________________ all guns lost in a tragic smelting accident. I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.

December 3, 2012, 09:26 PM	#12
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 11,718	The CZ P01 would be more in line with the guns listed in the poll. BTW, do you actually have a choice of duty pistols?

December 3, 2012, 10:37 PM	#13
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 2,863	You said "Duty/Carry Weapon"- have you checked with your potential agency to see which one's are (or not) on their approved list? Me? I have CZ's and had a FNP9 (haven't managed to bring home a M&P yet). If the decision were mine, I honestly think I would carry a CZ75BD over my issued Sig P229. And for the sake of your question- I would go with the CZ (if allowed). __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I'm going to use the words "clip" and "Long Colt" every chance I get. It grinds my gears to see new members attacked when we all know dang good and well what's being refered to.

December 3, 2012, 11:59 PM	#14
TheGoldenState Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2010 Posts: 1,186	96- I have, they are. Apples&Oranges- I have all the variations (sa/sa-da/da/striker) already, and am comfortable with either. Can also change out simply by qualifying. I really want to shoot the CZ and FNX __________________ The Day You Get Comfortable Is The Day You Get Careless...

December 4, 2012, 05:36 PM	#15
Constantine Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 4,052	The slide on the CZ is way too little for me. To grab that when clearing a malfunction, would aggravate me when they're better options for duty. I voted FNX .45 __________________ Sáncte Míchael Archángele, defénde nos in proélio, cóntra nequítiam et insídias diáboli ésto præsídium. Ímperet ílli Déus, súpplices deprecámur: tuque, prínceps milítiæ cæléstis, Sátanam aliósque spíritus malígnos, qui ad perditiónem animárum pervagántur in múndo, divína virtúte, in inférnum detrúde. Ámen

December 4, 2012, 06:09 PM	#16
zombieslayer Senior Member Join Date: September 11, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,181	I voted CZ. I've never had any problems with any CZ. But if I were open carrying a service-sized pistol, I'd go with either a P99AS or a PPQ. __________________ "An angry prophet, denouncing the hypocrisies of our time"

December 4, 2012, 10:05 PM	#17
NYPD13 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2008 Posts: 335	For Carry I say go with what you know, the S&W M&P series. Otherwise for a collection I always grab something of a different design and learn a new platform. __________________ "THE CONSTITUTION ONLY GIVES PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE HAPPINESS, YOU HAVE TO CATCH IT YOURSELF." ~BENJAMIN FRANKLIN.

December 7, 2012, 09:11 PM	#18
X_shooter Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 231	I voted FNX. I have handled the M&P and FNX and prefer the weight, feel, and controls of the FNX. Something about the CZ doesn't appeal to me. I should give it a fair review though when I get a chance. The FNX is on my short list. __________________ X_shooter

December 8, 2012, 08:51 AM	#19
wstein Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 148	I agree with NYPD. Duty carry, go with a platform that you are already familiar with. __________________ ________________________________________ I don't have a good signature.....

December 8, 2012, 02:00 PM	#20
Davkul Member Join Date: November 4, 2012 Location: Strongsville, Ohio Posts: 20	I recently bought a CZ P-07 and I love it! The grip is perfect and I have hands on the larger size, its not too heavy, holds 16 rounds and shoots amazingly. I especially like that it is hammer fired and has a decocker. That was a determining factor when I narrowed down my search to the M&P9 and the P-07. I held both and shot them both and the P-07 came out on top.