bullets4peace ?

rebs · November 30, 2012, 06:10 PM

Has anyone heard of these or know what their agenda is ?
Are they anti gun or pro gun ?

Xfire68 · November 30, 2012, 06:19 PM

I just read the "About statement" on the website and it seems he is at the least anti bullets! LOL

If he does not want bullets/cases to be reused I would venture to guess he is anti gun as well.

That said he has designed some nice looking jewelry.

Gaerek · November 30, 2012, 07:12 PM

He has the erroneous belief that if he collects all the spent casings and make jewelry out of it, manufacturers won't be able to make cartridges anymore...or something like that.

Good luck with that.

Ben Towe · November 30, 2012, 09:47 PM

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He has the erroneous belief that if he collects all the spent casings and make jewelry out of it, manufacturers won't be able to make cartridges anymore...or something like that.

Good luck with that.

I think he's well aware that it will not have an actual effect. It's more a symbolic effort. Not sure on his domestic weapons thoughts as he seems more focused on war zones and the like.

**Tom Servo** · November 30, 2012, 11:14 PM

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Not sure on his domestic weapons thoughts as he seems more focused on war zones and the like.

And, in a way, I'm OK with that. It's admirable to make an attempt, no matter how small or symbolic, to break cycles of violence where they occur.

Nothing on the site suggests an anit-gun agenda, and the list of charities doesn't send up any alarm bells.

(Ricki Lake's still on the air?)

SVO · November 30, 2012, 11:58 PM

I wonder how TSA Friendly his jewelry is?

Aguila Blanca · December 1, 2012, 05:37 PM

Why do I think this is about the biggest crock of BS ever encountered?

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After the war, Rafi moved to the Orient to live as a Monk in order to further his martial arts training and to explore a more introspective approach to dealing with violence. His advanced training and self-discovery through mediation and Chinese healing arts led him back to Israel and later to South Africa where he opened a martial arts school to teach peace through martial arts. Rafi participated in various matches and now holds numerous World Championship Titles representing South Africa.

Years later, Rafi relocated to the United States to continue his desire to promote peace. His most recognized accomplishments were through his work in the United States teaching martial arts to Hollywood celebrities and through his work with the U.S Government where he provided counter terrorism training.

The guy looks to be maybe 40 years old. We are expected to believe that in one lifetime this guy (of whom I have never heard) has

Been an Israeli army officer
Been a monk in China
Been a world champion in MULTIPLE martial arts disciplines
taught martial arts in South Africa
Taught martial arts to Hollyweird stars; AND
Been a counter-terrorism consultant to the U.S. government

Every cell and every atom in my body is screaming, "NO [BLEEP]ING WAY!"

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The empowerment and strength of the Shaolin warriors, combined with the softness and healing capabilities of the Wu Dang monks creates a perfect discipline.

And my response to this is to say, "Impossible." These are two very different disciplines, and IMHO they are not compatible. I'm not sure what you get when you try to combine two mutually-exclusive disciplines, but I'm pretty sure it's not a third discipline, and I'm very sure it's not perfect.

**Brian Pfleuger** · December 1, 2012, 05:54 PM

I sent them the following email, just for giggles:

Hello,

A few of things...

1)The images on your front page, of the "bullets" (actually cartridges) are in fact rifle rounds. They would not be fired from a handgun, as in your picture.

2)"Manufacturers" do not pick up shell casings and reload them. There are a few commercial reloading operations in the USA but by FAR, most manufacturers use new, never fired brass.

3)Reloaders are generally not criminals nor soldiers. Criminals buy new ammo, soldiers are issued ammo. In other words, the brass you pick up would have never be in the hands of criminals anyway.

4)The percentage of ammo, in the USA, that is ever used in any sort of crime is vanishingly small. Tens of millions of rounds are manufactured on an annual basis. The percentage of those used in crime is so small as to be essentially immeasurable. The percentage of THOSE that are reloads is, for all intents and purposes, zero.

Brian

rebs · December 2, 2012, 02:49 PM

I sent them an email about what their position is on gun control and I still have't received an answer.

**hogdogs** · December 2, 2012, 02:59 PM

I wonder if I can send in my own brass and have them do some cool designs just for me... Such as...

"Kill 'em all and let god sort them out"...

"Here piggy piggy piggy"...

"Big dogs Bark here and bite over there"...

"Ticket punch for the slow black train ride"...

Brent

Ben Towe · December 3, 2012, 08:48 AM

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"Ticket punch for the slow black train ride"...

LOL!

November 30, 2012, 06:10 PM	#1
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 1,599	bullets4peace ? Has anyone heard of these or know what their agenda is ? Are they anti gun or pro gun ? Last edited by Tom Servo; November 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM. Reason: Added link

November 30, 2012, 06:19 PM	#2
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	I just read the "About statement" on the website and it seems he is at the least anti bullets! LOL If he does not want bullets/cases to be reused I would venture to guess he is anti gun as well. That said he has designed some nice looking jewelry. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

December 1, 2012, 05:54 PM	#8
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,515	I sent them the following email, just for giggles: Hello, A few of things... 1)The images on your front page, of the "bullets" (actually cartridges) are in fact rifle rounds. They would not be fired from a handgun, as in your picture. 2)"Manufacturers" do not pick up shell casings and reload them. There are a few commercial reloading operations in the USA but by FAR, most manufacturers use new, never fired brass. 3)Reloaders are generally not criminals nor soldiers. Criminals buy new ammo, soldiers are issued ammo. In other words, the brass you pick up would have never be in the hands of criminals anyway. 4)The percentage of ammo, in the USA, that is ever used in any sort of crime is vanishingly small. Tens of millions of rounds are manufactured on an annual basis. The percentage of those used in crime is so small as to be essentially immeasurable. The percentage of THOSE that are reloads is, for all intents and purposes, zero. Brian __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

December 2, 2012, 02:59 PM	#10
hogdogs Staff Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 10,691	I wonder if I can send in my own brass and have them do some cool designs just for me... Such as... "Kill 'em all and let god sort them out"... "Here piggy piggy piggy"... "Big dogs Bark here and bite over there"... "Ticket punch for the slow black train ride"... Brent __________________ Finally have designs going up in the Hogdogs Outdoor Apparel online store. http://www.cafepress.com/hogdogsoutdoorapparel Thanks for lookin'...

November 30, 2012, 07:12 PM	#3
Gaerek Senior Member Join Date: October 3, 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 825	He has the erroneous belief that if he collects all the spent casings and make jewelry out of it, manufacturers won't be able to make cartridges anymore...or something like that. Good luck with that.

November 30, 2012, 11:58 PM	#6
SVO Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2009 Location: Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 585	I wonder how TSA Friendly his jewelry is?

December 2, 2012, 02:49 PM	#9
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 1,599	I sent them an email about what their position is on gun control and I still have't received an answer.