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Old November 24, 2012, 06:31 PM   #1
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Gun show somewhat successful

Went to the Hampton VA Gun show today.

Came home with a 45-70 trapdoor. SN 279530. (1885)

Rifle stock was cut down but barrel is original length.

Bore is good and the rifle operates very smoothly. Finish is in my opinion, I little rough. Many would describe it as having a nice patina. For me I will clean it up a little and try to get it looking a little .....Better(?)

Traded the 1873 Cap and ball Cattleman from Pietta, (9 inch barrel) I have been trying to sell, plus three hundred for the rifle and the seller threw in a Pacific "C" press which is the one which can be reversed so the handle moves up or down plus ten different shellholder rams.

I'll post photos soonest.
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Old November 24, 2012, 06:41 PM   #2
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Since the Pacific Press was tossed in, I'd say you did well.
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Old November 24, 2012, 07:18 PM   #3
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Lock




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Starboard side

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Old November 24, 2012, 07:21 PM   #4
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Here's the press





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Old November 25, 2012, 03:56 AM   #5
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Well....

I figure the revolver was worth 275.00.

That means I gave 575.00 for the rifle and press.

The rifle will clean up nice and I think I can make the stock look decent.

All in all it is not a great deal but I suppose not too bad.

I can tell you I am thrilled to have the rifle as it is very close to what I have been looking for.

It will be fun to work on.

I'll sell the rams I don't need on the evil bay and try to get some money back that way.
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Old November 25, 2012, 06:44 PM   #6
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congrats Doc! I think that trapdoor has a lot of possibilities and looks like you can make it into a good shooter. You even got the rear sight and the barrel hasn't been whacked off. If you're looking to restore it - check with Lodgewood - they may have or can steer you in the right direction of an original fore stock section that you could splice under the lower barrel band. Or, you could just leave it the way it is. I hope you'll keep us posted on what you do with it along with photos. We always enjoy your "projects" greatly!
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Old November 25, 2012, 11:18 PM   #7
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Thanks Triple B

I am about ready to put some photos up of the disassembly.

BTW, The barrel length is 29 1/4 from breach to muzzle.

This does not fit any original barrel length I am able to find (quickly) so I guess the barrel was shortened too.
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Old November 29, 2012, 10:37 AM   #8
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Here are some photos of the finished Trapdoor

On the back porch



In its place of honor



The stock shortening job left a booggered up job, so I made a brass fitting to finish the forestock



Here is the lock, receiver and sight

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Old November 29, 2012, 10:44 AM   #9
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Old November 29, 2012, 05:42 PM   #10
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Doc, you do good work. Very well done, sir.
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Old November 29, 2012, 06:36 PM   #11
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very nice indeed!
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Old November 29, 2012, 06:36 PM   #12
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Old November 30, 2012, 12:37 AM   #13
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Thanks, Guys

I love this stuff.

I'm buying all of the dies, molds, cases and such to start shooting this thing.

(Gotta slug the bore first.)
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Old November 30, 2012, 04:48 AM   #14
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Just got a response....

....from a guy at a big Trapdoor site.

This rifle started out as a cadet rifle. So the barrel length is correct. Perhaps never cut down.

I suppose the flat muzzle (no crown) is original design.
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Old November 30, 2012, 05:03 AM   #15
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in my opion for what its worth doc, good buy an a very nice job bringing her back to life. well done!
one more thing doc....just how big is your safe?....
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Old November 30, 2012, 05:48 AM   #16
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Thanks Starbuck

I don't need a safe.

I have a watch cat.

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Old November 30, 2012, 07:28 AM   #17
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I love it, and think ya did great.
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Old December 1, 2012, 04:35 PM   #18
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Beautiful job...

and... the predator attack cat looks like it could gouge an intruders eye-balls out in seconds!!!

Sounds like good news on the "Cadet" version. Could be quite rare. I hope so!!!
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Old December 1, 2012, 06:57 PM   #19
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I dont think its a true cadet with the uncrowned muzzle but I've been wrong before.
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Old December 1, 2012, 07:52 PM   #20
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Hawg

You could be correct.

The barrel length on the Cadet was supposed to be 29.6. Barrel length on this is slightly shorter at 29.3. It is possible that the muzzle sustained some damage and the owner repaired it by cutting of the barrel ala. hacksaw.

It has a serial number which matches a Cadet rifle. It also has a trigger guard which is a match for Cadet trigger guards

I am traveling until Thursday but when I return I should have all of the stuff I need to load some bullets.

Once I do that, I shall see how she shoots.
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