Best prices on Military surplus powders and bullets?

Xfire68 · November 16, 2012, 05:40 PM

I am looking to do some bulk reloading of target ammo and want to get some cheaper bulk "Pulled" military powder and bullets.

Do any of you know the best sites to order from?

browninghunter86 · November 16, 2012, 10:08 PM

Wideners but have to be lucky to catch it as soon as they post it available online!!!

Jimro · November 16, 2012, 10:54 PM

Try Jeff Bartlett, www.gibrass.com

Has both powder and bullets usually.

Jimro

chris in va · November 17, 2012, 01:16 AM

Polygunbags.

snuffy · November 17, 2012, 03:21 AM

http://www.hi-techammo.com/

Xfire68 · November 17, 2012, 02:15 PM

Yes Snuffy I was going to place a order for 32lbs of powder from Hitech last night but when I went to order they were out of stock of all but, .50 cal powders! SOB!

CharlieDeltaJuliet · November 17, 2012, 02:29 PM

The surplus and pulled bullets and powder I buy comes from Wideners. It is the best place or me to get 50 BMG plinking supplies. Plus I am an hour and ten minutes from their store, so it helps if I have a large order to just go pick it up and save hazmat shipping.

Xfire68 · November 17, 2012, 03:11 PM

Wideners is out of stock as well other then the 844T tracer powder which I ordered 16lbs of. I would have ordered more of it but, I wanted to test it out first?

Looks like the crunch is on!

medalguy · November 19, 2012, 10:58 PM

No one as far as I can tell has very much selection of pulldown stuff any more. I'm afraid the days of cheap powder and bullets are behind us.

Jimro · November 20, 2012, 12:17 AM

medalguy,

The massive orders for the DOD for use in the mid east will eventually get demilled and fill the system back up. Prices will be different, inflation sucks, but unless there is a change in the laws for .gov surplus, things will return to normal sometime.

Jimro

Xfire68 · November 20, 2012, 01:39 AM

So far I am not happy with Wideners! The site won't let me login and they are not replying to me emails??

I guess they don't care much once they have your cash? LOL

Heck all I wanted to do was buy more stuff and have it shipped with this order! I sent the email minutes after placing the order and now the order has processed without even replying telling me that they can't add anything to the order!

warningshot · November 20, 2012, 04:27 AM

I havn't been able to keep up with Wideners's Web page either. But the telephone works everytime for me since 1981.

Xfire68 · November 20, 2012, 12:21 PM

I would have called (I did call but, they were closed) but, was not able to during their business hours. Why have email as a customer service option if your not going to reply?

JimDandy · November 20, 2012, 12:28 PM

If they're out of almost everything it stands to reason they're busy enough a delay in email is attributable to the same reasons. When I run into situations like this, I like to take a deep breath and relax. It helps me to remember this is not the matrix, I am not The One, and from time to time I have to stand in a line, or otherwise wait my turn.

Xfire68 · November 20, 2012, 05:01 PM

I called today and even though the order won't even ship till next Monday I can't add anything to the order. Yes they are busy but............ I am not upset about it all. After all it was me that forgot to add the bullets to the order to begin with.

This being a "Holiday" week I will cut them some slack but, I will more then likely order from my normal sources in the future.

medalguy · November 20, 2012, 11:53 PM

Jimro, Yes the games in the sandbox will wind down one day, but none of the surplus ammo will be demilled to make components available to us. According to what I have read from several sources, Clinton changed the rules after the Talon debacle and all surplus ammo now is burned/blown up and not allowed to be demilled. Hopefully CMP will get some of it to sell but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for components.

I understand there are small lots of LC ammo demilled by the government contractor if it doesn't meet their requirements, but the large-scale quantities of powder and bullets I believe are a thing of the past. I hope I'm wrong about this.

Edward429451 · November 21, 2012, 02:08 PM

Is that what happened to Hi-Tech? Government? I used to buy a lot from them but lately the link takes me right to outofstock.com

Jimro · November 21, 2012, 04:42 PM

Medalguy, whatever you read about powder not being demilled and sold is wrong. You can check the .gov auction site online and occasionally you'll see demilled powder come up. Spent brass is plentiful. Last time I saw an auction for powder the quantities listed was on the order of 30 tons, back in 2008. Haven't checked much since then.

Jimro

medalguy · November 22, 2012, 02:14 AM

I saw that offering but it was I think either .50 or 20mm powder. I haven't seen any small caliber stuff advertised in the past several years, so I'm going by what I've read on several forums. May be wrong, sure hope so.

Xfire68 · November 22, 2012, 02:52 AM

There was 5.56 powder in stock just a few days ago but I waited to long. Hitech emailed me and they will have more in stock soon.

snuffy · November 22, 2012, 01:16 PM

http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html

Looks like Jeff Bartlett has plenty of the faster burn rate powder available. WC-844 is loaded using H-335 data, @ $100.00/8 pounds puts it at $12.50 per pound. Of course, the hazmat fee's come into consideration, but you should get a lot of good powder for much less that buying it commercially.

That's IF you were to buy it at a LGS. If you ordered it from powder valley, hazmat enters into the equation again.

Xfire68 · November 30, 2012, 12:24 PM

Update on Wideners. My items still have not shipped on a order placed on the 16th!

Called again today and all they can say is they are busy! LOL

I understand 4-5 days to process the order but 10 is out of hand and she told me it will not ship till next week!

Never again!

Marco Califo · November 30, 2012, 01:42 PM

Their website clearly states (and IIRC, has for 3 weeks):
"Current Shipping Delay for ALL items 8-12 Business Days after receipt of order."
You are within that period. So, what exactly is your complaint? Or, spend more at: http://www.gibrass.com/

Xfire68 · November 30, 2012, 03:33 PM

At the time I placed my order I did not go to their home page I was brought right to the items I was searching for from the search engine and nowhere is there a delay warning on the product page, shopping chart or checkout?

They should have the shipping delay warning either on all product pages or in the checkout process before paying.

Until you pointed out the notice on the home page I was unaware of it even after speaking on the phone with them twice??

Had I known there was such a long delay I would have just waited for another site to get the same items back in stock which will be this week.

rodfac · December 2, 2012, 11:29 AM

Plus one on Jeff Bartlett's GIBrass...good guy, good prices, no BS. Rod

November 16, 2012, 05:40 PM	#1
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	Best prices on Military surplus powders and bullets? I am looking to do some bulk reloading of target ammo and want to get some cheaper bulk "Pulled" military powder and bullets. Do any of you know the best sites to order from? __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 16, 2012, 10:54 PM	#3
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 4,268	Try Jeff Bartlett, www.gibrass.com Has both powder and bullets usually. Jimro __________________ "Gorsh" said Goofy as secondary explosions racked the beaten zone, "Did I do that?" http://randomthoughtsandguns.blogspot.com/

November 17, 2012, 03:21 AM	#5
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 2,513	http://www.hi-techammo.com/ __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

November 17, 2012, 02:15 PM	#6
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	Yes Snuffy I was going to place a order for 32lbs of powder from Hitech last night but when I went to order they were out of stock of all but, .50 cal powders! SOB! __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 17, 2012, 02:29 PM	#7
CharlieDeltaJuliet Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2012 Posts: 423	The surplus and pulled bullets and powder I buy comes from Wideners. It is the best place or me to get 50 BMG plinking supplies. Plus I am an hour and ten minutes from their store, so it helps if I have a large order to just go pick it up and save hazmat shipping. __________________ " The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government...." - Thomas Jefferson

November 16, 2012, 10:08 PM	#2
browninghunter86 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2011 Posts: 500	Wideners but have to be lucky to catch it as soon as they post it available online!!!

November 17, 2012, 01:16 AM	#4
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 11,718	Polygunbags.

November 17, 2012, 03:11 PM	#8
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	Wideners is out of stock as well other then the 844T tracer powder which I ordered 16lbs of. I would have ordered more of it but, I wanted to test it out first? Looks like the crunch is on! __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 19, 2012, 10:58 PM	#9
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 949	No one as far as I can tell has very much selection of pulldown stuff any more. I'm afraid the days of cheap powder and bullets are behind us.

November 20, 2012, 12:17 AM	#10
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 4,268	medalguy, The massive orders for the DOD for use in the mid east will eventually get demilled and fill the system back up. Prices will be different, inflation sucks, but unless there is a change in the laws for .gov surplus, things will return to normal sometime. Jimro __________________ "Gorsh" said Goofy as secondary explosions racked the beaten zone, "Did I do that?" http://randomthoughtsandguns.blogspot.com/

November 20, 2012, 01:39 AM	#11
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	So far I am not happy with Wideners! The site won't let me login and they are not replying to me emails?? I guess they don't care much once they have your cash? LOL Heck all I wanted to do was buy more stuff and have it shipped with this order! I sent the email minutes after placing the order and now the order has processed without even replying telling me that they can't add anything to the order! __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 20, 2012, 04:27 AM	#12
warningshot Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2009 Posts: 980	I havn't been able to keep up with Wideners's Web page either. But the telephone works everytime for me since 1981.

November 20, 2012, 12:21 PM	#13
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	I would have called (I did call but, they were closed) but, was not able to during their business hours. Why have email as a customer service option if your not going to reply? __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 20, 2012, 12:28 PM	#14
JimDandy Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2012 Posts: 1,497	If they're out of almost everything it stands to reason they're busy enough a delay in email is attributable to the same reasons. When I run into situations like this, I like to take a deep breath and relax. It helps me to remember this is not the matrix, I am not The One, and from time to time I have to stand in a line, or otherwise wait my turn.

November 20, 2012, 05:01 PM	#15
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	I called today and even though the order won't even ship till next Monday I can't add anything to the order. Yes they are busy but............ I am not upset about it all. After all it was me that forgot to add the bullets to the order to begin with. This being a "Holiday" week I will cut them some slack but, I will more then likely order from my normal sources in the future. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 20, 2012, 11:53 PM	#16
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 949	Jimro, Yes the games in the sandbox will wind down one day, but none of the surplus ammo will be demilled to make components available to us. According to what I have read from several sources, Clinton changed the rules after the Talon debacle and all surplus ammo now is burned/blown up and not allowed to be demilled. Hopefully CMP will get some of it to sell but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for components. I understand there are small lots of LC ammo demilled by the government contractor if it doesn't meet their requirements, but the large-scale quantities of powder and bullets I believe are a thing of the past. I hope I'm wrong about this.

November 21, 2012, 02:08 PM	#17
Edward429451 Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,457	Is that what happened to Hi-Tech? Government? I used to buy a lot from them but lately the link takes me right to outofstock.com __________________ "Always place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark" Lazarus Long "Understand that the enemy is not the enemy in his own eyes ;this may offer you an opportunity to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate, and quickly." Lazarus Long

November 21, 2012, 04:42 PM	#18
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 4,268	Medalguy, whatever you read about powder not being demilled and sold is wrong. You can check the .gov auction site online and occasionally you'll see demilled powder come up. Spent brass is plentiful. Last time I saw an auction for powder the quantities listed was on the order of 30 tons, back in 2008. Haven't checked much since then. Jimro __________________ "Gorsh" said Goofy as secondary explosions racked the beaten zone, "Did I do that?" http://randomthoughtsandguns.blogspot.com/

November 22, 2012, 02:14 AM	#19
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: August 31, 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 949	I saw that offering but it was I think either .50 or 20mm powder. I haven't seen any small caliber stuff advertised in the past several years, so I'm going by what I've read on several forums. May be wrong, sure hope so.

November 22, 2012, 02:52 AM	#20
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	There was 5.56 powder in stock just a few days ago but I waited to long. Hitech emailed me and they will have more in stock soon. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 22, 2012, 01:16 PM	#21
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 2,513	http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html Looks like Jeff Bartlett has plenty of the faster burn rate powder available. WC-844 is loaded using H-335 data, @ $100.00/8 pounds puts it at $12.50 per pound. Of course, the hazmat fee's come into consideration, but you should get a lot of good powder for much less that buying it commercially. That's IF you were to buy it at a LGS. If you ordered it from powder valley, hazmat enters into the equation again. __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

November 30, 2012, 12:24 PM	#22
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	Update on Wideners. My items still have not shipped on a order placed on the 16th! Called again today and all they can say is they are busy! LOL I understand 4-5 days to process the order but 10 is out of hand and she told me it will not ship till next week! Never again! __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

November 30, 2012, 01:42 PM	#23
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA Posts: 580	Re: Wideners Their website clearly states (and IIRC, has for 3 weeks): "Current Shipping Delay for ALL items 8-12 Business Days after receipt of order." You are within that period. So, what exactly is your complaint? Or, spend more at: http://www.gibrass.com/ __________________ ........................................................

November 30, 2012, 03:33 PM	#24
Xfire68 Senior Member Join Date: April 1, 2010 Location: Communist State of IL. Posts: 1,292	At the time I placed my order I did not go to their home page I was brought right to the items I was searching for from the search engine and nowhere is there a delay warning on the product page, shopping chart or checkout? They should have the shipping delay warning either on all product pages or in the checkout process before paying. Until you pointed out the notice on the home page I was unaware of it even after speaking on the phone with them twice?? Had I known there was such a long delay I would have just waited for another site to get the same items back in stock which will be this week. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF Member

December 2, 2012, 11:29 AM	#25
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,223	Plus one on Jeff Bartlett's GIBrass...good guy, good prices, no BS. Rod __________________ Our Flag does not fly because the wind blows against it, It proudly waves because a soldier's dying breath blows upon it. USAF Forward Air Controller, 5th Spl Forces, An Loc, lll Corps, RVN, 69-70, Vietnam Vet '69-'73